wine

[stackthepads]

Looking to buy a 1st year anniversary gift for my wife. I would like to buy a bottle of red wine 2010, that I can open in 5 years from now. My price range is about $150-$300. Anybody of any suggestions or know where to look? (i do not live in Calgary)

[Blaster86]

BC Wineries!

Is what I would say if things were allowed to cross the border.

[Tyler]

Do they make wine that expensive that is barely a year old?

Maybe you should get ice wine?

[VladtheImpaler]

A very important question for you - can you really tell the difference between a good $35 wine and a $150 wine? REALLY? Don't do it just to show off.

[stackthepads]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

A very important question for you - can you really tell the difference between a good $35 wine and a $150 wine? REALLY? Don't do it just to show off.

Will a $35 wine last five years? The idea is to open it on our 5th?

[stackthepads]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Do they make wine that expensive that is barely a year old?

Maybe you should get ice wine?

yes they do make much more expensive wine then that. We are not big ice wine drinkers.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Do they make wine that expensive that is barely a year old?

Some wines are made specifically with the intent that you cellar them and open later.

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by stackthepads

Looking to buy a 1st year anniversary gift for my wife. I would like to buy a bottle of red wine 2010, that I can open in 5 years from now. My price range is about $150-$300. Anybody of any suggestions or know where to look? (i do not live in Calgary)

Telling us where you live would be a good place to start

[jtfrogger]

I am by no means an expert, but this is an area of interest for me.

In that price range (i.e. really high end), most 2010 wine will not be available yet. For example, 2010 is apparently an exceptional year for Bordeaux wines. I just put in a preorder for a number of cases of 2010, and I will not get the wine until the end of 2012. I did the same for 2009, which was also apparently a good Bordeaux year. I don't even have that wine yet. Also, the really high end wines take even longer to get into their prime. You may not want to drink such a high end wine that young. (It will still be good, but not at its prime.)

We have a number of high end wines (~$100) for the year of our wedding (2005). Most of them I still waiting a few more years before opening, since they are still quite young.

Calgary has a number of good wine stores. Is the same true where you live? I recommend going into one of them and speak with them and see what they have to say. Actually, I would recommend going to a few of them to get their opinion. Mainly because I think it would be fun and with more opinions you will likely be able to make a more informed decision.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by stackthepads

Will a $35 wine last five years? The idea is to open it on our 5th?

Sure. Obviously, not if you store it your kitchen in a sunny spot. I don't know where you are, but if you are in/going through the Okanagan, pop into a winery and buy a nice "fresh" wine from 2010. Everyone has their favourites but I would recommend a higher end Burrowing Owl or Summerhill. If you are in Calgary, go to the Willow Park liquor store and chat with the "wine guy" - very knowledgeable - and explain what you are looking for.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Some wines are made specifically with the intent that you cellar them and open later.

Yes, they are called red wines.

[jtfrogger]

I see a few more posts since I wrote my response.

Originally Posted by stackthepads

Will a $35 wine last five years? The idea is to open it on our 5th?

Easily. Although it is generally the case that wine that will last longer is more expensive, a five year timeframe is relatively short. Most decent red wines will still not be in decline after 5 years. Most of the wine I own is in the $20-$30 range. Some of those are ones where I still do not plan to open the first bottle out of a case for one or two years.

The really expensive wines are really ones where you are talking about decades.

[troutman]

More often than not, the price of a wine has more to do with marketing, than quality.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...t=wine+tasters

http://www.slashfood.com/2011/04/15/...rom-expensive/

People can't tell the difference between cheap and expensive wine, says psychologist Richard Wiseman after conducting a survey of 578 drinkers at the Edinburgh International Science Festival, reports The Guardian. The participants sampled a variety of red and white wines in a blind taste test with prices ranging from about $6 to $50. The results concluded that people could only tell the difference between cheap and expensive white wines 53% of the time, and 47% of the time for red wines.

The Journal of Wine Economics backs up Wiseman's findings. Its 2008 study, "Do More Expensive Wines Taste Better?" reported that:

Individuals who are unaware of the price do not derive more enjoyment from more expensive wine. In a sample of more than 6,000 blind tastings, we find that the correlation between price and overall rating is small and negative, suggesting that individuals on average enjoy more expensive wines slightly less.

[ma-skis.com]

Originally Posted by troutman

The Journal of Wine Economics backs up Wiseman's findings. Its 2008 study, "Do More Expensive Wines Taste Better?" reported that:

Individuals who are unaware of the price do not derive more enjoyment from more expensive wine. In a sample of more than 6,000 blind tastings, we find that the correlation between price and overall rating is small and negative, suggesting that individuals on average enjoy more expensive wines slightly less.

I'd like to know how much fancy wine they had before they tasted the cheap wine, I guarantee I couldn't tell either after a couple bottles.

That's actually my strategy at the bar, get some good beer early, then switch to the daily special and roll on home.

[stackthepads]

I live in Ottawa.

[stackthepads]

Originally Posted by jtfrogger

I am by no means an expert, but this is an area of interest for me.

In that price range (i.e. really high end), most 2010 wine will not be available yet. For example, 2010 is apparently an exceptional year for Bordeaux wines. I just put in a preorder for a number of cases of 2010, and I will not get the wine until the end of 2012. I did the same for 2009, which was also apparently a good Bordeaux year. I don't even have that wine yet. Also, the really high end wines take even longer to get into their prime. You may not want to drink such a high end wine that young. (It will still be good, but not at its prime.)

We have a number of high end wines (~$100) for the year of our wedding (2005). Most of them I still waiting a few more years before opening, since they are still quite young.

Calgary has a number of good wine stores. Is the same true where you live? I recommend going into one of them and speak with them and see what they have to say. Actually, I would recommend going to a few of them to get their opinion. Mainly because I think it would be fun and with more opinions you will likely be able to make a more informed decision.

Thanks for your post. I live in Ottawa.

I also read that Bordeaux wines are exceptional for 2010 along with the 09 and 05.

How long would I have to wait for a 2010 vintage? How would you suggest i go about picking the wine?

How long would you say before drinking it

[jtfrogger]

Originally Posted by troutman

More often than not, the price of a wine has more to do with marketing, than quality.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...t=wine+tasters

http://www.slashfood.com/2011/04/15/...rom-expensive/

Price vs. Quality is a really unique thing for wine. I believe that the correlation is quite low in most cases. I do believe that price makes a difference in a couple of areas:

• Really cheap wines. I find that I really don't like most of the wines that retail for less than about $13. I have found exceptions, but I generally avoid the really cheap ones unless I sample or get a recommendation. But the likelihood that I am going to enjoy a random $15 wine is about the same that I am going to enjoy a random $35 wine. For the most part, I rule out wine that has no claim on provenance. If you read a label of something like Naked Grape, they will not make any claim as to what COUNTRY the grapes came from nor what year the grapes were harvested. Those are the wines I avoid, but they end up being cheap since they'll buy whatever is cheapest at the time they need it. I've had good tasting bottles of Naked Grape Riesling, and I have had bad tasting bottles of Naked Grape Riesling. The really cheap bottles that I did enjoy usually have the growing region and vintage noted.
• Wines meant for aging. The wines that are at their best years after release are more expensive. Again, I have seen exceptions, but most wines that will last more than ten years will not be cheap.

Originally Posted by stackthepads

I live in Ottawa.

You live in a land where you can only buy booze from the government. So, you are stuck with what you get. However, they should still have people that are at least somewhat knowledgeable to help you with your decision.

[jtfrogger]

Originally Posted by stackthepads

Thanks for your post. I live in Ottawa.

I also read that Bordeaux wines are exceptional for 2010 along with the 09 and 05.

How long would I have to wait for a 2010 vintage? How would you suggest i go about picking the wine?

How long would you say before drinking it

I'm not good at limiting it to one, so I might not be a good person to ask. I ordered one of each case of this catalogue from a wine club that I've been part of for a couple years. That catalogue speaks to when each wine is drinkable. Even though most of the dates start at about 2014 or 2015, they will still be rather young and that would be about the time to open the first bottle.

[vanisleflamesfan]

Originally Posted by stackthepads

I live in Ottawa.

Good luck. Wine selection here is awful. Unless you like crappy Niagara region stuff in which case... you are set!

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by stackthepads

Will a $35 wine last five years? The idea is to open it on our 5th?

If this is your first anniversary, and you open the wine in 5 years- that'll be your sixth.