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Old 05-10-2005, 08:42 PM   #1
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Apparently if you are an IDF soldier in Israel, repeated rape of an 11 year old is punished by 6 months of community service.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/574687.html
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:49 PM   #2
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In handing down their ruling, the three women judges wrote that they intended to send the message that it is not pointless for women to make a rape complaint, and to show the accused that he is directly responsible for an attack on a child, and for the need to seek her forgiveness.


???? This seems weird. Maybe rape isn't a big deal in Israel?
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:53 PM   #3
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That is just sick. How could someone get 6 months community service for that. Hell what shocked me more was that the prosecution was only going for 3 years in prison. He raped an 11 year old, he deserves whatever is coming to him, and apparently he deserved way more than that.

"The psychologist said that the trauma of imprisonment would cause him to have a nervous breakdown and could even spark thoughts of suicide."

You have to be kidding me right?

"Following the rapes, the girl began to lose her religious faith, had difficulty sleeping and suffered from recurring nightmares. She also lost all of her hair, and has to wear a wig."

So he ruined her life, or at least significantly harmed her way of life, and yet the courts seem to think that his need for peace of mind in avoiding prison takes precidence.

Just sick.
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:56 PM   #4
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That's sick I wonder if he had raped a boy they would have looked at the crime more seriously. Honestly in the middle east a loaf of bread is worth more than a woman's soul.
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:58 PM   #5
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I'm confused by the fact that he was put on trial by a civilian authority. Something like that goes against the Uniform Codes of Military Justice and could be called a war crime, which would have meant automatic life imprisonment with no chance of parole.

Weird, and the wrong message for Isreal to be sending at the moment.
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Old 05-10-2005, 10:18 PM   #6
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Captn I am sure you know more than me, but why would it be considered a war crime. it wasn't a part of the conflict against Palestine, it was his 11 year old cousin.
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Old 05-10-2005, 10:31 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@May 11 2005, 04:18 AM
Captn I am sure you know more than me, but why would it be considered a war crime. it wasn't a part of the conflict against Palistine, it was his 11 year old cousin.
Your right, I wasn't thinking clearly, but I still think since he was under uniform that the Military had a right to try one of thier own.

Its repulsive to the max tho.
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Old 05-10-2005, 10:48 PM   #8
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Thats absolutely brutal! I think a spine crushing would be a more appropriate penalty.
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Old 05-10-2005, 10:52 PM   #9
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To answer the question in the thread title.........

Life in prison with no chance of parole, or the death penalty.

Just terrible, terrible stuff.
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Old 05-10-2005, 10:58 PM   #10
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KootenayFlamesFan, I really disagree with some aspects of the death penalty, but at the same time when someone rapes a child I can't help but agree with basically everything that it says. I just can't believe that someone would so something so discusting to a child, and especially to do it over an extended period. He has to have no conscience at all in my opinion.

In general I really think that some of these creeps should be put to death, or at least suffer somewhat, and that doesn't happen through community service.
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Old 05-10-2005, 11:55 PM   #11
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I don't have a problem with the death penalty at all.......in severe cases.

I don't think a person should be put down for something that was an accident, but anything like this case or serial murderers or rapists, I don't have a problem whatsoever.

Maybe that makes me a bit unsympathetic......I don't know, in general I'm sure not a violent person, but I sure wouldn't lose any sleep knowing a person doing something like this isn't alive to do it all over again or waste taxpayer's money to get 3 warm meals a day or internet access in prison.

There is just no excuse for things like this.
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:06 AM   #12
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Death. Kids are off limits no matter what.
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Old 05-11-2005, 08:45 AM   #13
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Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@May 11 2005, 04:18 AM
Captn I am sure you know more than me, but why would it be considered a war crime. it wasn't a part of the conflict against Palestine, it was his 11 year old cousin.
yep,

had it been a palestinian child,

no sentence at all. same as murder.

as for response to the thread title,

my heart says death penalty,

my mind and my faith in the criminal justice system says locked away for good incase DNA evidence can clear in a decade or so.
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Old 05-11-2005, 08:54 AM   #14
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Death via rape sounds good to me. Could take a while.
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:47 AM   #15
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:48 AM   #16
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People in this country are for some reason too squemish about the death penalty, but really, for people like this, and violent murderers, I can't think of a better way to deal with them. Especially since we lack the technology/techniques to actually cure these people.

Since the death penalty ain't around (yet), I'd say life, no parole, in solitary.
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:59 AM   #17
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I have no problem giving the death penalty for something like that. If the children are your country's future, it's greatest natural resouce, then wouldn't tampering with it be treason?

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Old 05-11-2005, 12:10 PM   #18
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Quote:
Originally posted by Thunderball@May 11 2005, 11:48 AM
Since the death penalty ain't around (yet), I'd say life, no parole, in solitary.
What do you mean by "yet"? Do you think it's actually going to happen?
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Originally posted by Maritime Q-Scout@May 11 2005, 10:59 AM
I have no problem giving the death penalty for something like that. If the children are your country's future, it's greatest natural resouce, then wouldn't tampering with it be treason?

Hang'em
Huh? It is wrong and sick and I fully believe that with every moral fiber of my body, but treason it is not.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:03 PM   #20
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For most rapist, they would likely reoffend so the only solution is castration. They give up their human rights when they raped someone, so off with their nuts!
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