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Old 08-15-2011, 07:23 AM   #1
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Default Every Prisoner in Norway will Eventually be Released (Vice Guide re: Anders Brevik?)

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/08/12...awaits-breivik

I always like Vice guide videos, this is a video about Norway's prison system. There is no death penalty and the maximum sentence is 21 years. Every prison is designed for rehabilitation as the ultimate goal as every prisoner in the system will eventually be released.

Is Anders Brevik only going to get 21 years for killing almost 80 people?

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He will not be released, this is a common myth but there are ways to imprison dangerous people for good, I think even using psychiatric determination.

Also Vice guide rules this world, if anyone hasn't heard of their docs they should drop what they are doing and watch Vice guide to Liberia.

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I always like Vice guide videos, this is a video about Norway's prison system. There is no death penalty and the maximum sentence is 21 years. Every prison is designed for rehabilitation as the ultimate goal as every prisoner in the system will eventually be released.

Is Anders Brevik only going to get 21 years for killing almost 80 people?
No. The Norwegian system, like the Canadian, can opt to keep a person in jail past the maximum sentence if they are deemed not reformed enough. Brevik will almost likely never see the outside of the prison again.
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Not to mention these prisons that the news in the west keeps showing are not where hardened criminals go, near the last years of their sentences they are sent to places like this as a way to help ease them back into society as useful members of society.
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The Vice Guide to North Korea is definitely an interesting watch . . . I highly recommend it.
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I'd be very interested to know the effectiveness of the Norwegian system in practice. Have there been any studies that looked into the rates of criminal recidivism amongst Norwegian parolees compared to other Western democracies?
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It's very low, 20%.

I got that number from this video, a pretty good discussion:

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21 years is the maximum sentence?

I am glad my ancestors left their life of servitude in Norway for the new world. They also brought Lefse but with every good comes some bad and they also brought this nasty liver dish
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Norway is a paradise, but you'd have to live there to understand this.

As has been said, if you are done your 21 years and the review finds you not fit to return they can impose upon you another 21 years, up to 5 times.
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21 years is the maximum sentence?

I am glad my ancestors left their life of servitude in Norway for the new world. They also brought Lefse but with every good comes some bad and they also brought this nasty liver dish
Lefse and Potet Klub = can't be beat.

Lutefisk = most disgusting fish dish ever conceived by humans.
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Lefse and Potet Klub = can't be beat.

Lutefisk = most disgusting fish dish ever conceived by humans.
There is that Icelandic rotten shark thing...
What is the name of the dish where you roll up fat in potato, then slice it and fry it in more fat? That is some delicious arterial blockage.
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...Lutefisk = most disgusting fish dish ever conceived by humans.
Until you've experienced Surströmming.

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Until you've experienced Surströmming.


perhaps, as i have never been subject to it...but lutefisk is flat out disgusting on every level.

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I don't know, I think fermented fish sounds worse than jellied fish.
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My Grandpa was from Norway and always had this in his fridge. I still can't bring myself to eat it after having it as a kid. Gjetost and Lutefisk would be on the low end of my Norwegian favorites list. Lefse at Christmas makes up for it though.
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Lefse is the best!
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Rotten shark beats all this hands down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A1karl

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Hákarl is traditionally prepared by gutting and beheading a Greenland or basking shark and placing it in a shallow hole dug in gravelly-sand, with the now-cleaned cavity resting on a slight hill. The shark is then covered with sand and gravel, and stones are then placed on top of the sand in order to press the shark. The fluids from the shark are in this way pressed out of the body. The shark ferments in this fashion for 6–12 weeks depending on the season.
Following this curing period, the shark is then cut into strips and hung to dry for several months. During this drying period a brown crust will develop, which is removed prior to cutting the shark into small pieces and serving. The modern method is just to press the shark's meat in a large drained plastic container.


Chef Anthony Bourdain, who has travelled extensively throughout the world sampling local cuisine for his Travel Channel show No Reservations, has described shark ţorramatur as "the single worst, most disgusting and terrible tasting thing" he has ever eaten.
Chef Gordon Ramsay challenged journalist James May to sample three "delicacies" (Laotian snake whiskey, bull penis, and hákarl) on The F Word; Ramsay then vomited after eating hákarl, although May kept his down. May's only reaction was, "You disappoint me, Ramsay."[1]
On season 2's Iceland episode of Travel Channel's Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern, Andrew Zimmern described the smell as reminding him of "some of the most horrific things I've ever breathed in my life," but said the taste was not nearly as bad as the smell. Nonetheless, he did note that hákarl was "hardcore food" and "not for beginners."
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I'd be very interested to know the effectiveness of the Norwegian system in practice. Have there been any studies that looked into the rates of criminal recidivism amongst Norwegian parolees compared to other Western democracies?
Impossible to compare really as the countries demographics are different from most western democracies.

Crime will always be lower in mostly rural ethnically (and culturally) homogeneous areas, particularly in a well off country with little poverty .
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May's only reaction was, "You disappoint me, Ramsay.
This is hilarious.
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My Grandpa was from Norway and always had this in his fridge. I still can't bring myself to eat it after having it as a kid. Gjetost and Lutefisk would be on the low end of my Norwegian favorites list. Lefse at Christmas makes up for it though.
No wonder you don't like it if you had Ski Queen. That's like the cheese whiz of brunost (brown cheese).

This is much better



It's good on pancakes with jam.
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