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burn_baby_burn · 01-10-2011, 09:59 AM

Even though the playoffs are still in full swing. There are lots of off season moves going on with the teams that out of the tournament. The drama in Miami for instance.

So here is your NFL off season thread to hold us through to training camp in July, 2011.

Chiefs news? Outside of getting killed in Arrowhead yesterday, the Chiefs are looking to replace OC Charlie Weiss as soon as possible. Numerous rumors out there for potential candidates. One strong possibility is Denver Broncos OC Mike McCoy.

transplant99 · 01-10-2011, 10:39 AM

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Even though the playoffs are still in full swing. There are lots of off season moves going on with the teams that out of the tournament. The drama in Miami for instance.

So here is your NFL off season thread to hold us through to training camp in July, 2011.

Chiefs news? Outside of getting killed in Arrowhead yesterday, the Chiefs are looking to replace OC Charlie Weiss as soon as possible. Numerous rumors out there for potential candidates. One strong possibility is Denver Broncos OC Mike McCoy.

I would think McDaniels is a possibility there if he isnt getting another HC gig which is highly unlikely.

rubecube · 01-10-2011, 10:56 AM

All the rumours are that McDaniels will be in Minnesota next year.

Dallas, the Jets, and Redskins are all likely out of the Asomugha sweepstakes due to cap issues. The Eagles could be in play, but are unlikely as they already have $22M committed to Samuel. That leaves probably Houston, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and the Giants as the most likely destinations.

I'd still like to see the Eagles find a way to bring him, but they do need to sign Jackson, Vick, and others to new contracts. Jonathan Joseph would also be a good second choice.

OILFAN #81 · 01-10-2011, 11:20 AM

Seems as though Carolina has found a new coach.....San Diego defensive coordinator Ron Rivera.

burn_baby_burn · 01-10-2011, 11:48 AM

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I would think McDaniels is a possibility there if he isnt getting another HC gig which is highly unlikely.

There were rumors of him being a likely candidate last week.

transplant99 · 01-10-2011, 12:09 PM

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Seems as though Carolina has found a new coach.....San Diego defensive coordinator Ron Rivera.

I don't get it if this turns out to be the case.

By far the worst offense in the NFL last year and maybe in the last 10 years...and they go to a defensive minded guy. (Albeit a very very good one)

In that division you better be able to put up some points or you are dead.

Sylvanfan · 01-10-2011, 12:09 PM

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Seems as though Carolina has found a new coach.....San Diego defensive coordinator Ron Rivera.

Rivera has been one hell of a DC. IIRC the Chargers were like 2-5 and a mess on defence when he took over their defence the year they finished 8-8 and won the AFC West, and the past two years they've had an elite defence despite not having a lot of big name guys.

But good co-ordinators don't always make for good head coaches. Either way if he's no longer San Diegos DC, than I'm smiling as I don't think they replace him with an upgrade or equal guy.

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In that division you better be able to put up some points or you are dead.

Carolina is the one team who doesn't have a stud QB...they'll need to have an absolutely dominating defence if they want to survive in that Division until they find a QB.

OILFAN #81 · 01-10-2011, 12:41 PM

Kevin Kolb said he is not going to be a backup next year and wants to be a starter somewhere else if he can't be in Philly.

Displaced Flames fan · 01-10-2011, 12:49 PM

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Kevin Kolb said he is not going to be a backup next year and wants to be a starter somewhere else if he can't be in Philly.

Good luck with that Kevin.

He hasn't played well enough for a team to swoop in and offer him their starting jobs. There will be some jobs open, but he'll have to compete.

Erick Estrada · 01-10-2011, 12:50 PM

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I don't get it if this turns out to be the case.

By far the worst offense in the NFL last year and maybe in the last 10 years...and they go to a defensive minded guy. (Albeit a very very good one)

In that division you better be able to put up some points or you are dead.

Sounds like Richardson was always targeting a defensive guy to replace Fox. Too early to say if it's a bad hire as Rivera is a really good DC that has finally got his shot after getting passed over for a while now. As long as he can bring in a quality OC and give him control rather than the generic offense that Fox liked to run they may be okay but there's going to be growing pains regardless as they are really slim at nearly all positions on offense.

Erick Estrada · 01-10-2011, 12:54 PM

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Good luck with that Kevin.

He hasn't played well enough for a team to swoop in and offer him their starting jobs. There will be some jobs open, but he'll have to compete.

There are some pretty needy teams though and Kolb would likely be an upgrade for teams like Arizona, Carolina, Cleveland, etc. I'm not sold on him but I would take him over Anderson, Delhomme, Henne, etc.

Displaced Flames fan · 01-10-2011, 01:00 PM

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There are some pretty needy teams though and Kolb would likely be an upgrade for teams like Arizona, Carolina, Cleveland, etc. I'm not sold on him but I would take him over Anderson, Delhomme, Henne, etc.

Don't disagree, but there will be some better options out there.

Orton, Volek etc.

I think Arizona is going to give Skelton a chance.

CofR · 01-10-2011, 01:07 PM

I didn't see this posted in either of the other threads but the Bucs exercised the two year option on Raheem Morris on Saturday. Fully expected with the great season we had, I'm looking forward to next year to see how we can fare with a tougher schedule and even further development of the young talent we have.

rubecube · 01-10-2011, 02:21 PM

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There are some pretty needy teams though and Kolb would likely be an upgrade for teams like Arizona, Carolina, Cleveland, etc. I'm not sold on him but I would take him over Anderson, Delhomme, Henne, etc.

Tom Heckert, Cleveland's GM, was the guy who drafted Kolb when he was with Philly and is still really high on him. Throw into the mix the likelihood that former Eagles QB coach Pat Shurmur is likely to be the new head coach in Cleveland and it makes sense that Kolb would go there.

Apparently Andy Reid and Howie Roseman (Eagles GM) are also still high on Kolb and are wanting two first round picks. I think they're out of their minds, but I could see them landing two seconds or a second and couple thirds, etc.

transplant99 · 01-10-2011, 03:21 PM

I think Colt McCoy may already a better QB than Kolb and certainly should get better with some experience.

Not sure why the Browns would be looking at Kolb...the guy has been awful as a pro but Reid must see something he likes there and in practice etc.

CofR · 01-10-2011, 03:35 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...e=HP_headlines

The Bucs have also exercised the one year option on GM Mark Dominik... Another no-brainer decision... He made some great moves this past year picking up Mike Williams in the third round and signing Blount.

rubecube · 01-10-2011, 05:19 PM

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I think Colt McCoy may already a better QB than Kolb and certainly should get better with some experience.

Not sure why the Browns would be looking at Kolb...the guy has been awful as a pro but Reid must see something he likes there and in practice etc.

I think awful is a bit of an exaggeration. He's had three really good games as a starter and three really crappy games. And, to be fair, he played one of those crappy games against a good Packers defense, and the other against Dallas when he was playing with backups.

My main knock on him is his poor arm strength, but I think he can be a servicable player in the NFL. I'd be interested to see how he performs behind a better offensive line before jumping to conclusions.

Matt Schaub garnered two second round picks when Atlanta traded him to Houston, and he'd only really had one decent start in his career at that point. Young QBs always seem to get traded for more than their worth. Christ, the Eagles once landed a second round pick for AJ Feely. Kolb's contract is also pretty attractive and their are enough teams looking for QB help this year that someone is bound to overpay for him.

transplant99 · 01-10-2011, 05:46 PM

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I think awful is a bit of an exaggeration. He's had three really good games as a starter and three really crappy games. And, to be fair, he played one of those crappy games against a good Packers defense, and the other against Dallas when he was playing with backups.

He has been in the league 4 years now and should be a lot better than he is. If awful is to strong, then I will go with not very good.

I just dont see what it is that all the hype was about...but obviously Reid sees something he likes. Im juts not sure how many other GM's/personel guys agree with him.

Wise Gamble · 01-10-2011, 06:10 PM

Vince Young to San Fran hope it happens

Montana Moe · 01-10-2011, 07:07 PM

What would Harbaugh want with Vince Young? Doesn't seem like a good fit to me.