Study links cannabis use to psychosis

[Reggie Dunlop]

http://www.canada.com/health/Study+u...303/story.html

That stuff is no good for you.

[Vulcan]

Just from my limited watching of the effects it has had on people I know, I'd agree and would encourage people not to use it. The other side of it is that alcohol is also no good for some people and yet it's legal and so should cannabis be and rightly so.

[Ozy_Flame]

I used to be a huge pot smoker. Looking back on it, I don't regret doing it (more harmless than smoking), but now it just seems like a waste of time.

I'm of the opinion now that if you have time to sit around smoking pot, you have time to go to the gym or do something productive.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Just from my limited watching of the effects it has had on people I know, I'd agree and would encourage people not to use it. The other side of it is that alcohol is also no good for some people and yet it's legal and so should cannabis be and rightly so.

No need to make another harmful product legal.

[calf]

I had pot induced psychosis...but I cured it with my brain.

[Yanda]

but it helps my eating disorder.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I'm of the opinion now that if you have time to sit around smoking pot, you have time to go to the gym or do something productive.

Can't people do both? Or is it only one or the other?

But scientists say it is not yet clear whether the link between cannabis and psychosis is causal, or whether it is because people with psychosis use cannabis to self-medicate to calm their symptoms.

I don't think it's a big secret my stance on the subject but I think any drugs, legal or not, has to have an effect on a growing body and mind. This proves it, I'm sure if you did a study on the youth drinking there would be some side effects that are just as bad.

The only reason youth find it so easy to get a hold of marijuana is because it is illegal. Drug dealers don't care about age they just care about getting the money. It is easier for children to buy illegal drugs than legal drugs (booze/cigs) which is another reason to make it legal and at least control who can and cannot buy it.

I personally didn't start smoking it til I was 19 but probably smoke between 5-10 joints per day and don't have phycho tendencies. When I have a few too many drinks...that's another story. Make booze illegal!!

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Can't people do both? Or is it only one or the other?

Well obviously one or the other.

[calgaryred]

is this a new study? My mother is a psych nurse this info is far from new, its quite common knowledge on the psych ward pot can cause schizophrenia.

[Hack&Lube]

Study links coke use to Charlie Sheen.

Psychosis and neurosis are such broad terms. Any narcotic or substance or even regular food and medicine that you take in excess will cause that.

You could also make broad correlations from the lifestyles, behaviors, and personalities of the people who take these substances and probably conclude they have some sort of psychosis or neurosis themselves.

[Machiavelli]

Studies have been suggesting this for a while.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by HOOT

The only reason youth find it so easy to get a hold of marijuana is because it is illegal. Drug dealers don't care about age they just care about getting the money. It is easier for children to buy illegal drugs than legal drugs (booze/cigs) which is another reason to make it legal and at least control who can and cannot buy it.

I'm not sure why people say things like this. Marijuana is a multi billion dollar industry. Illegal drug distribution isn't just going to go away if it is legalized. At any rate, cigarettes and alcohol were pretty easy to get when I was a minor, so I think this is just another poor argument by stoners to legalize marijuana.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I'm not sure why people say things like this. Marijuana is a multi billion dollar industry. Illegal drug distribution isn't just going to go away if it is legalized. At any rate, cigarettes and alcohol were pretty easy to get when I was a minor, so I think this is just another poor argument by stoners to legalize marijuana.

Very true...

He discounts any positive outcome that taxing legal marijuana could produce.

"That theory doesn't hold water. If we look at taxation and tobacco right now, the taxes do not account for the health-care costs of tobacco use."

A study by the Fraser Institute estimates the real value of B.C.'s marijuana industry at $7 billion in 2006, the same year the value of all the agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting in B.C. totalled $5.3 billion.

The institute says there were 17,500 grow-ops province-wide that year.
"Don't think that all that money [$7 billion] is coming back to British Columbia," Rintoul says.

"Some of that money is going to other countries to support other organized-crime activities" involving cocaine, handguns and human smuggling.

He cites the recent bust of a crime group that was exporting 700 kilograms of B.C. bud worth $3 million per week to the U.S. -- and funnelling the profits to the gang's head office in Vietnam.

"If you legalized marijuana in Canada, you would be telling that organization, 'You now have a free reign in that activity,' because they were not selling their marijuana in Canada, they were always selling in the States. To legalize it here would not shut them down.

"The majority of marijuana grown in Canada is exported. So, to say, 'Oh, we'll tax that as well,' you can't tax it going down there, you can only tax what's in Canada.

"And a lot of people would not pay taxes because they could grow it themselves. " Rintoul also argues that a black market in marijuana would still exist if it were legal, since growers would try to avoid paying tax on it.

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...1-5c265c7f8024

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I'm not sure why people say things like this. Marijuana is a multi billion dollar industry. Illegal drug distribution isn't just going to go away if it is legalized. At any rate, cigarettes and alcohol were pretty easy to get when I was a minor, so I think this is just another poor argument by stoners to legalize marijuana.

How many people are being killed at the Mexican border because of trafficking of booze and cigarettes?

The only reason it isn't going anywhere is because the criminals fight for it to stay illegal because it is a multi-billion dollar business. In BC alone it's a $7B business.

Well maybe it's just out here because almost everyone I know tried marijuana before they tried alcohol because it was so easy to get. You didn't need someone to boot for you, you just walk down the street to the kid you go to school with and buy a dime bag. And honestly I don't care if it's legal or not, I will continue to smoke it because I know I would never be charged for smoking it. Not to mention the friends I have who make all their income from it, so they might actually have to find real jobs instead of making $40k every two months for watering plants...ya I'd want it illegal too if I was in the business.

I actually can't stress it enough that either legal or illegal I DO NOT care! I would just rather see that money, even if it isn't the whole $7B, go towards lowering our taxes, putting more money into education or health care. But people would rather let the gangs control that money and spend it on cars, boats, houses, businesses, guns, hard drugs, etc.

[Yanda]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I'm not sure why people say things like this. Marijuana is a multi billion dollar industry. Illegal drug distribution isn't just going to go away if it is legalized. At any rate, cigarettes and alcohol were pretty easy to get when I was a minor, so I think this is just another poor argument by stoners to legalize marijuana.

You rather gangs and crime control the Multi-Billion dollar industry as opposed to the government?

[robocop]

let's get one thing straight, most of you have zero comprehension regarding the difference between correlation and causation.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Yanda

You rather gangs and crime control the Multi-Billion dollar industry as opposed to the government?

Frankly, I don't care. Legalize it and I don't have to listen to a bunch of boring stoners whine about it anymore. I'm just saying that it isn't going to suddenly become controllable simply because it is legal.

Another thing to consider would be what legalizing marijuana would do to our border relations with the US. I just think it would be refreshing for once if those in favour of legalizing it would give their position a little more thought then just "make it legal and then we can tax it".

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Another thing to consider would be what legalizing marijuana would do to our border relations with the US.

What about it? What can they really do?

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by robocop

let's get one thing straight, most of you have zero comprehension regarding the difference between correlation and causation.

Correlation: a person doing A is more likely to do B
Causation: Doing A causes a person to do B

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Another thing to consider would be what legalizing marijuana would do to our border relations with the US. I just think it would be refreshing for once if those in favour of legalizing it would give their position a little more thought then just "make it legal and then we can tax it".

Like the thought you've put into your position?
"Frankly, I don't care. Legalize it and I don't have to listen to a bunch of boring stoners whine about it anymore."