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Old 02-24-2011, 05:46 PM   #1
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This is an excellent documentary, I'm sure many of us on the board have seen it and would agree.

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The Solution for a lot of people:



http://www.wavesforwater.org/

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Because water is the next oil, desalinization technologies will be THE technologies of the next 50 years.

Thanks for posting all that Pinner.
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doesn't Canada hold the largest fresh water supply in the world? it's probably a good thing we have the world's most powerful military as our friendly southern neighbor
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^ except when our neighbor wants to exploit that supply...
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So what's a good de-salinization company I should buy stocks in?
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Very concerning....

Jesse Ventura did a good episode on the "worldwide water conspiracy" as well. 42 mins. long...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1uWSmclzWY

The Chinese are stealing water from our great lakes!
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Old 02-24-2011, 08:38 PM   #7
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that's your idea of a good documentary? I thought with the exception of a few small parts, it lacked any intelligent thought once so ever and can't believe i bothered watching the whole thing.

Props to the one Indian fellow who mobilized the community to come up with solutions to their water problems. The only person in the whole documentary who actually gave a damn about finding solutions rather then just complaining about everyone else.

And as for the people who were complaining water should be free. It is, no ones stopping you from going down to the elbow with your bucket or storing rainwater on your own. On the other hand the purification, distribution systems and sanitation? Not free at all. So if you want your clean water delivered close to you and your waste water taken care of. Then yes you have to pay for it, whether it's private or public, somewhere along the line someones gotta foot the bill.

I personally loved their claim that for only $30 billion everyone in the world could have access to clean water. Nearly doubled over in laughter with that one. Go take this video to Bill Gates and convince him of that. I guarentee if he thought it was remotely possible to bring the entire world clean drinking water for only half his fortune he'd give up africa as his pet project and get er done.

And I'll say this, water isn't the oil of the next century. We have the technology that with enough willpower there will be enough water to go around and albiet slowly clean water is being brought to new places all over the world all the time.

However, there isn't enough arable land in the world to produce enough food to sustain the uncontrollable growth rates in a lot of 3rd world countries. More people already die of starvation then do from lack of suitable drinking water. But then again it's probably a bigger issue because its a hell of a lot easier to convince rich people to give money to try and solve the water issues then it is to convince poor people not to ####.

oh right, one thing i did learn. Dams are evil. lol

the incredibly stupid part is they almost had a really good point about how nutrients settle out of the water at dam sites. But instead of talking about the downstream ramifications of this, they decide their gonna toss in some global warning alarmism. :facepalm:

And yes with this critique i am saying I could/can make a better documentary on water issues facing the planet, but i lack the political motivation and there just isn't the financial incentive for me so it won't be happening.

that documentary was a bunch of mumbo jumbo thrown at a wall to see what sticks to upset some wannabe do gooders and like minded people as the filmmakers who are going to sit on their butts and do nothing about it while pointing out how aware of the issue they are.

Nothing says the worlds water supply is in jeopardy like interviewing a bunch of well off americans complaining their stream might dry up during a drought from a whooping 14 rural locations around the US.

I'm not saying there aren't major problems with the worlds water supply because there are. I'm saying that of all the issues that this documentary brought up, they pretty much missed the key points on almost all of them.

I could go on but at this point /rant

Overall the documentary gets a D- for attempting alarmism instead of actually getting it right.

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Very concerning....

Jesse Ventura did a good episode on the "worldwide water conspiracy" as well. 42 mins. long...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1uWSmclzWY

The Chinese are stealing water from our great lakes!
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Old 02-24-2011, 09:01 PM   #9
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that's your idea of a good documentary?
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Old 02-24-2011, 09:16 PM   #10
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There is a futurist by the name of Ray Kurzweil who debunks the water crises idea. He says that de-salinization is not far away from being widely used. He wrote an interesting book called The Singularity Is Near about technology in the future (I'm not smart enough to really understand it but it was very interesting).

I see they've made the book into a documentary.

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http://www.amazon.com/Aqua-Shock-Wat.../dp/1576603326

Good read!
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With all the crappy, drive-by, one liner post-responses on Cp that completely deserve a sarcastic response of "nice contribution", that was sure as hell not one of them.

Disagree all you like, but thats as good of a contribution as you can ask for on CP.
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Call me skeptical, but water isn't going to be the "oil of the next century" simply because it's a renewable resource. Last I checked, it doesn't rain oil. Considering the fact that water covers 3 quarters of our planet, I firmly believe that if push comes to shove, desalination technologies will advance enough in the future to make ocean water a viable alternative.

TBQH, I'd be more worried about overpopulation than I would about any sort of water crisis in the future.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:44 AM   #14
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Call me skeptical, but water isn't going to be the "oil of the next century" simply because it's a renewable resource.
Exactly. When you're done with your water, the city treats it and puts it back in the river. Then they use it again in saskatchewan, treat it, and put it back in the river. Then they use it again in Manitoba, treat it, and put it back in the river. Then it flows out into Hudson's Bay, where it joins the worlds oceans. It hangs out there, and then evaporates into clouds, which move around and then dump precipitation on land, and the cycle starts again.

I believe there is a unit called the "water cycle" in approximately grade 3 science. It's not like we're burning the water, or shooting it into outer space.
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And yes with this critique i am saying I could/can make a better documentary on water issues facing the planet, but i lack the political motivation and there just isn't the financial incentive for me so it won't be happening.


Overall the documentary gets a D- for attempting alarmism instead of actually getting it right.
You should make a documentary on the subject, sounds like you've already done the research. If the UN's number of 30 billion is so funny that you doubled over in laughter, send then an E Mail and tell them the real numbers.

I'm puzzled as to why you would go on such a rant against this film.

Just because you could produce a much better film doesn't give you the right to blast the producers of this film. I'm sure the producers of the film put a lot of time effort and money to get this documentary and it's message "out there" and I assume their motives were not driven by greed since most of these loose money.

Since your in the movie business I looked this up for you,(means nothing to me) IMDb rates it a 7.5/10. It was nominated for the Grand Jury prize at the Sundance Film Festival and won Best Documentary at the Vail Film Festival and it did loose money.

I find it disgusting that we as a society spend $100 billion yr. on bottled water but can't provide the poor with a cheap filter or basic water treatment.

It's ironic your mention that people should get their water out of the Elbow River reminded me of that news story last summer about the lack of male fish in the river.

Apparently the chemicals/pollution in the water are turning male fish into female fish

Some Fun Facts

3/10th of 1% of all the world's water is usable by humans.

17% of the world's population lack access to clean drinking water.
This is improved from 22% in 1990.

About 1 billion people lack access to safe clean drinking water.

The UN Children's Fund reports that over 1.2 billion people who were without access to safe water in 1990
now have it.

37% of the world's population lack access to water for basic hygiene.

Households without plumbing spend on average 90 minutes a day hauling water for family needs.

Women, usually responsible for hauling water when plumbing is absent,
on average carry 45 pounds of water at a time.

4,700 died on average every day in 2005 - mostly children under 5 - due to lack of clean potable water.

Every 8 seconds a child dies from a water-borne disease.

I made an effort to get the "Waves for Water" filter some attention and I guess your attack helped by bumping the thread, so thanks, feel free to carry on.
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I believe there is a unit called the "water cycle" in approximately grade 3 science. It's not like we're burning the water, or shooting it into outer space.
The chemicals, prescription drugs and pesticides etc. etc. don't go away smarty pants
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And as for the people who were complaining water should be free. It is, no ones stopping you from going down to the elbow with your bucket or storing rainwater on your own. On the other hand the purification, distribution systems and sanitation? Not free at all. So if you want your clean water delivered close to you and your waste water taken care of. Then yes you have to pay for it, whether it's private or public, somewhere along the line someones gotta foot the bill.
For industrial processes you require a water licence and the government has cut those off. At this point Farmers are selling their water licences to companies who are converting them for "industrial use". Make no mistake, water is, at worst, the third most valuable resource in this province.

No one is stopping you from going down to the bow river with a bucket because no one does it. If all 1.1 million calgarians started doing it, they would.
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I would HIGHLY recommend the Frontline documentary on America´s water supply, Poisoned Waters.

We have a lot of problems with hormones in our fresh water system as well as loads of other big warning signs coming from our rivers and lakes.

Bottled water is a scourge, I doubt anyone can seriously support us not buying as much and cleaning up our act. Its not hard to use reusable drinking containers instead of those cheap plastic bottles filled with water no better than what is coming out of your tap at home. All this while filling our landfills and oceans with ridiculous amounts of plastic.

But do watch the Frontline one, its outstanding journalism as usual.
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Did Michael Moore direct that film?
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Probably a better documentary that I mentioned in the movie thread is
Blue Gold: World Water Wars
http://www.bluegold-worldwaterwars.com/
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