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Old 02-14-2011, 10:01 AM   #1
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So this morning as I'm pulling out of my alley all of a sudden my rear wheels locked. Actually, I think the driver's side rear specifically. Now it won't turn. My buddy thinks siezed brakes, and my co-worker is thinking maybe I went to long on my bearings and they overheated and seized up...but I was hoping someone out there on the CP braintrust might have some more insight. Its a '96 Caravan, so front wheel drive.
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E-brake cable probably seized, a mechanic should be able to release the parking brake mechanism so it will turn freely.
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E-brake cable probably seized, a mechanic should be able to release the parking brake mechanism so it will turn freely.
I don't think I've ever used the park brake...
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Hows the weather? Ice in the brake drum?

Could be the parking brake not letting go.

You can try backing off the brake adjuster.

I had a 90 caravan and the bearing spun and welded itself to the rear spindle, but then the bearing just came apart and the wheel kept turning. Luckily didn't fall right off, but I was only a block from home. Pop the hubcap and bearing cap off and you should be able to tell pretty quick.

Does that have a sealed rear bearing?
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Hows the weather? Ice in the brake drum?

Could be the parking brake not letting go.

You can try backing off the brake adjuster.

I had a 90 caravan and the bearing spun and welded itself to the rear spindle, but then the bearing just came apart and the wheel kept turning. Luckily didn't fall right off, but I was only a block from home. Pop the hubcap and bearing cap off and you should be able to tell pretty quick.

Does that have a sealed rear bearing?
Haven't had a chance to look yet. I left my impact wrench at my Dad's when I was there last. Jack and axle-stands too. I will report back later once I have the thing apart. Thanks for the ideas!
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Does it get parked outside? Often in this weather brakes will sieze from the small amount of corrosion and the ice that makes its way into the brake parts. Often you can brake it loose. If it doesnt brake loose than its something mechanical and needs to be inspected.
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Does it get parked outside? Often in this weather brakes will sieze from the small amount of corrosion and the ice that makes its way into the brake parts. Often you can brake it loose. If it doesnt brake loose than its something mechanical and needs to be inspected.
Yeah man, it gets parked outside. Also it felt like this morning when I was backing out that the very same wheel was frozen to the ground. There was most certainly a jerk and ice breaking sound before I was off down the alley and then the thing seized.
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I don't think I've ever used the park brake...
Hmmm then its not likely the case.. My mustangs e-brake cable snapped and it had the same symptoms.
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This should be obvious, but you never know with some people these days (especially with a person whose username is that of a beer), but is there a parking boot on your car?
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This should be obvious, but you never know with some people these days (especially with a person whose username is that of a beer), but is there a parking boot on your car?

Typically its the parking brake springs located on the rear brakes that seize and then snap.
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This should be obvious, but you never know with some people these days (especially with a person whose username is that of a beer), but is there a parking boot on your car?
No.
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Anyone else read the thread title and think that your rear wheels were stolen and subsequently confiscated by the po po?
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Yeah man, it gets parked outside. Also it felt like this morning when I was backing out that the very same wheel was frozen to the ground. There was most certainly a jerk and ice breaking sound before I was off down the alley and then the thing seized.

Did you try driving it on pavement to see if it was just ice frozen in there?

With the melt, water sometimes gets into the mechanical parts and freezes overnight. Try again later today and see if it spins freely.
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yea,i thought they were taken from you lol.
I highly doubt the bearings would just go like that. To my knowledge you typically get a warning and it will make a noise that just gets worse and worse.
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........but is there a parking boot on your car?
i read this and thought of that classic Simpsons episode with parking officer Steve Grabowski.......love it when homer can't decide wether to drink crab juice or mountain dew after eating the kokalosh on a stick......
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E-brake cable probably seized, a mechanic should be able to release the parking brake mechanism so it will turn freely.
+1 on parking brake cable OR the brake itself.

Over time and many situations, the brake which is usually a drum break can break down. This would lead to one day having you back tires seize up (1 tire is possible), as it probably finally had its last jolt that broke it and now its jammed up.
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He doesn't use they E brake, so it can't be that. I would say ice, except it's been warm.

If a wheel bearing went bad, I would think someone would notice some symptoms like squeaking, squealing and vibration before it would seize.

A brake component from inside the drum could've come loose and got stuck between the shoe and the drum.

If it has a disc brake setup, then I would say the little caliper slides that let the calipers slide away from the rotor when the brakes are released are seizing up. This would be an easy fix.
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He doesn't use they E brake, so it can't be that. I would say ice, except it's been warm.

If a wheel bearing went bad, I would think someone would notice some symptoms like squeaking, squealing and vibration before it would seize.

A brake component from inside the drum could've come loose and got stuck between the shoe and the drum.

If it has a disc brake setup, then I would say the little caliper slides that let the calipers slide away from the rotor when the brakes are released are seizing up. This would be an easy fix.
Pinner, it doesnt matter if he doesn't engage the brake.

If at one point it is a circle inside a larger circle, and the inside one brake in half into two C's, then it will immediately jam.

I have had an identical problem and the solutions was to hammer the worn out drum brake (ebrake) until it was gone completely, then disengaged the cable. One of our vehicles no longer has its ebrake that was never used
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