12-02-2009, 11:41 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Killer Steve Kenyon gets his name protected by the RCMP
How does this procedure not get changed? Just completely ridiculous.
So Steve Kenyon steals a minivan and in outracing police kills himself and another innocent man in a car crash. Because he is dead and his family do not wish to have their name tarnished they can request the RCMP to withhold his name. and they do.
http://www.calgarysun.com/news/colum...04246-sun.html
His mother, brothers and girlfriend are left to grieve, and wonder what Kerfoot did to deserve such a senseless death. If the Mounties had their way, Kerfoot's family would forever wonder who killed him.
"How can they do that? I think people should be allowed to know -- we should have a right to know," said his brother Jason Kerfoot.
Because of a ridiculous RCMP policy, the 21-year-old who drove a stolen minivan into oncoming traffic, in a bid to avoid pursuing police, won't ever be officially identified by police.
Thanks to the Edmonton medical examiner, who isn't bound by Mountie protcol, the name was made public anyway, late yesterday: It's Steve Kenyon, according to reports.
To get a sense of how daft, consider that if the family of Mountie killer James Roszko had asked, he would have been kept anonymous following the 2005 quadruple slaying in Mayerthorpe, Alberta.
Criminals often die as a result of their own stupidity and selfish actions -- our national police force has no business protecting their names, no matter who asks.
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12-02-2009, 11:44 AM
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Location: Moscow, ID
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He's dead, I feel strongly that the family should have this right. Government is not in the business of vindication.
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12-02-2009, 11:49 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder
He's dead, I feel strongly that the family should have this right. Government is not in the business of vindication.
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So if you had a relative/friend that was killed, you wouldn't care or wouldn't want to know who killed them?
I would also like to point out another crappy AHOLE of the decade from yesterdays's articles. Darren Coupal! These drunk drivers deserve the death penalty! HORRIBLE
Hit and run motorist Darren Coupal was so drunk when arrested minutes after a fatal crash he had defecated in his pants, court heard today.
He admitted a charge of impaired driving causing death, two of impaired causing bodily harm, as well as fleeing the scene of an accident and driving while disqualified due to an earlier impaired conviction.
Mason said Coupal was seen staggering to a Dodge Durango as he left the Bull and Finch Pub on 162 Ave. S.W., a mere 1.1 km from his home.
A couple who saw him approach his vehicle, Monica and Gerry Bast, attempted to intervene, but Coupal drove away before they could stop him, the prosecutor said.
Instead, they followed Coupal, witnessing the horrific crash on Bridleridge Way S.W., which killed Davey, 39, and injured her wheelchair-bound son, Joshua, then 15, who suffers from cerebral palsy, and their neighbour, Fakhria Zadran.
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12-02-2009, 11:55 AM
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Okay, I do agree that you can't punish the whole remaining family because one stupid @sshole stole a car and led the RCMP on a high speed chase into oncoming traffic.
But, the victim's family is going to be punished for the rest of their lives- their family member is dead. I do think that the family deserves to know who is responsible for their loss...to at least give them some measure of closure.
I know that if my brother, for example, had done something like this, I wouldn't want my name tarnished by his actions- I didn't lead police on a high speed chase and end up killing someone, why should I be punished as well? I would, however, be all over the news, publicly distancing myself from HIS choices, and HIS actions- that is how you don't end up being painted with the same brush as the perpetrator.
By wanting their name kept secret, it's almost like the family is wallowing in "Oh, my poor misunderstood son...if only the police hadn't FORCED him to run...." It makes them seem like THEIR family member is the victim, which isn't true. I dunno.
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12-02-2009, 12:06 PM
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
So if you had a relative/friend that was killed, you wouldn't care or wouldn't want to know who killed them?
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Why would you want to know? What would you do with that information?
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12-02-2009, 12:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
So if you had a relative/friend that was killed, you wouldn't care or wouldn't want to know who killed them?
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I dunno, maybe but I wouldn't exactly call it a healthy thought or emotion. Definitely not something the government should be involved with facilitating.
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12-02-2009, 02:30 PM
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Redundant Minister of Redundancy
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I thought this thread was going to be about a guy that won a legal battle against the RCMP to name himself Killer Steve.
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12-02-2009, 02:43 PM
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Sounds like our crazy judicial system is at its best again...
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12-02-2009, 02:53 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Agamemnon
Why would you want to know? What would you do with that information?
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If you are asking, I doubt you've ever lost a relative to a crime.
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12-02-2009, 02:53 PM
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Norm!
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The family of the victim has a definate right to know the circumstances and the responsible parties that caused the death or injury.
This protecting the identity of the suspect drives me crazy especially in the case where they're still out there.
The whole protecting the identity of one of the white supremist bombers because he was a minor while he was on the run was ridiculous and stupid, they should have plastered his name and picture on every T.V. station and bill board across this country.
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12-02-2009, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by flamesflames444
Sounds like our crazy judicial system is at its best again...
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This has nothing to do with the judicial system, it's an RCMP policy.
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12-02-2009, 03:28 PM
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
If you are asking, I doubt you've ever lost a relative to a crime.
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Have you?
I'm pretty aware of the obvious answer... what I want to see is someone rationally defend that. Give it a go.
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02-07-2011, 02:52 PM
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Draft Pick
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You dont kno what your talking about
You beter get your god damn facts straight before you go off calling my sons father a ####in killer you dont kno #### its the grey nuns fault this even happened steve was bipolar n denied help at grey nuns so you wanna call someone a killer you call the hospital whose supposed to help ppl a killer not steve you kno he has family and loved ones too and we dont wanna be reading this stuff online you have something to say you say it to me not to these lil ppl on the internet kus they dont kno ####
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02-07-2011, 02:54 PM
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Congrats on bumping a thread from over 2 years ago for that rant.
Theres plenty of bi-polar people who dont steal minivans and cause fatal accidents. Sounds like someone is trying to force the blame around.
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02-07-2011, 02:58 PM
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Weird posts are weird.
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02-07-2011, 03:01 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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I'm going to lock this, everyone's had their say and this is just a bit too personal to let run; far too much opportunity to cause grief and harm to others for no good reason.
If someone has a good reason for the thread to be reopened let me know.
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