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Old 01-15-2011, 11:50 AM   #1
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Some numbers I crunched in excel to see the overall picture of where each teams strength is.

So basically I took each team's top 18 skaters and looked at their individual ratings. The thing I added was the ice-time.

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-Your top line on offense plays 35%
-Your second line on offense plays 30%
-Your third on offense plays 25%
-Your fourth line on offense plays 10%
-Defence breakdown went as 40% for first pair, 35% for second pair, 25% for third
-Your top rated player at C,LW,RW were your first line then the next best rating is the second line etc.
-Your top 4 players at each forward positon were then taken.
-Your top 6 dman were chosen.
-If you didn't have 4 players at each forward position, you were assigned a default rating of 50s across the board for the 4th player. Couple of those cases.


Looked at key factors as Durability, Faceoffs, Passing, Scoring, Defence, Experience, Leadership, Overall.

For faceoffs only your 4 centerman were considered.

Ratings are out of 500 for all except facoffs
Faceoff rating is out of 100

The top teams in most cases have the top ratings. Bottom feeders really have a lot of work to do to catch up.

For deviation, take the mean and add/subtract the deviation and if you're above that number then you're in the upper half of the league, 16%, basically elite. If you're below the number then you're in the bottom half of league, 16%,as in really bad. An area you can focus on in your next trade discussion.

Here are the results.
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If you're interested in the excel file to change the icetime or play with it send me an email and I'll send you the file.

What do you think, a true reflection?
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Old 01-15-2011, 12:05 PM   #2
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Great work. Really interesting breakdown. However it only adds to my confusion as to why the stars are so low in the standing when we are top 1/2 or even top 1/3 in these rankings.

I'll continue to blame to previous gm until I can no longer defend that position
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Old 01-15-2011, 12:06 PM   #3
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Great work! I think thats a true representation of the Flames...Mid to bottom in most categories except age and experience.
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Old 01-15-2011, 12:18 PM   #4
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Great work. Really interesting breakdown. However it only adds to my confusion as to why the stars are so low in the standing when we are top 1/2 or even top 1/3 in these rankings.

I'll continue to blame to previous gm until I can no longer defend that position
Stars weren't suppose to be this bad this year. They made the playoffs with a worse team last year and in the off-season Matt added and had predicted his team would challenge for the top spot in the west. When that didn't go to plan, he cried and quit. So you're team wasn't/isn't as bad as the standings suggest.
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Old 01-15-2011, 12:20 PM   #5
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Ducks are obviously not playing as well as they should.
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Old 01-15-2011, 12:22 PM   #6
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Wonder where I would have been on this before I did my massive overhaul. I know my ex and ld would be much higher.
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Old 01-15-2011, 01:01 PM   #7
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Wow amazing stuff, I thought about doing something like this but you pulled it off, must of took a while. Stay tuned I will be looking at adding another stats spreadsheet.

By the way pretty darn close on the overall rating for the Islanders only a difference of one position.

Of course there is other factors involved on how a team does including goalies, injuries/depth, divisional games.

Anyway, that is about as close as we are going to get to having a true overall rating system for teams.
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Wow amazing stuff, I thought about doing something like this but you pulled it off, must of took a while. Stay tuned I will be looking at adding another stats spreadsheet.

By the way pretty darn close on the overall rating for the Islanders only a difference of one position.

Of course there is other factors involved on how a team does including goalies, injuries/depth, divisional games.

Anyway, that is about as close as we are going to get to having a true overall rating system for teams.
Took bout couple hours. The actual doing of it wasn't much but how I wanted to do it took time and the awesome appearance of course. Wasn't bad though.
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Old 01-15-2011, 04:16 PM   #9
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Great work - slam dunk for posters of the week.
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Old 01-15-2011, 04:49 PM   #10
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Jackets are top 10 in most categories are 6th in in the league in OV. The Jackets fans should be happy with the progression of their team and should be looking at some playoff action this year!
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Jackets are top 10 in most categories are 6th in in the league in OV. The Jackets fans should be happy with the progression of their team and should be looking at some playoff action this year!
Overall wise you're on the verge of becoming an "elite" team.

Top 5 teams according to my system are Elite.
Next 14 are good to very good category.
Next 11 are poor to very poor.

Of course the B's and Capitals are doing much better then their overall ratings suggests. This is where our favorite chemistry comes into play.

In my opinion there are very few cases of chemistry issues and mostly highly rated teams are doing well enough.
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:59 AM   #12
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Things like this really piss me off because it confirms i should have a lot more the 87 goals scored
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Old 01-17-2011, 04:38 PM   #13
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13th in the stats and 2nd in the standings....ahhh I love sim chemistry
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:32 PM   #14
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sorry for delay in responding this is really cool stuff, digging ourselves out of a total hard drive crash

SAbres look completely average by these metrics, which is more or less what we'd expect. subpar on faceoffs, I guess the fact my 2 4th liner wingers are FO specialist doesn't help me much
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