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Old 11-01-2020, 01:21 AM   #1
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Back to the days when life was so much better...

Also, it's the end of Daylight Savings (which probably shouldn't exist anymore, but whatever), so turn those clocks back one hour.

I see it hasn't quite taken effect on the forums yet. That slacker Photon... I'm posting from the future!
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Old 11-01-2020, 01:26 AM   #2
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Unless you have little kids.... been up for an hour
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Also, it's the end of Daylight Savings (which probably shouldn't exist anymore, but whatever)
Wrong.

It is all that should exist. Down with Standard Time!
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F that.

Standard time is the better time, even according to science. If we ever stay permanent, it better be standard.
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F that.

Standard time is the better time, even according to science. If we ever stay permanent, it better be standard.
Do you have links to this research? I would be interested to see it. I have always read that switching is bad but never read anything about it mattering which time zone you are in.
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0827150951.htm
The only arguments I’ve heard for permanent DST is the bogus ‘light in the evenings promotes shopping - good for the economy!’ As if no one has headlights and there aren’t already ridiculously bright street lights everywhere.

I’d say if we’re honestly looking at what’s best, it’s the sleep experts we should be listening to. Not some randos who have no idea what they’re talking about.
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Why are we still doing this nonsense?
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The only arguments I’ve heard for permanent DST is the bogus ‘light in the evenings promotes shopping - good for the economy!’ As if no one has headlights and there aren’t already ridiculously bright street lights everywhere.

I’d say if we’re honestly looking at what’s best, it’s the sleep experts we should be listening to. Not some randos who have no idea what they’re talking about.
American sleep experts wouldn’t see the same extremes of light and dark that we do in the winter and summer months. So Canadian or Scandinavian experts would need to be consulted.

I think it’s pretty clear that changing is bad.

In the winter I appreciate the hour of light but sunrise at 4:22 am on June 21st isn’t anywhere near natural.
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I actually love this day! I'm a huge fan of darker earlier. Cozy season begins
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I actually love this day! I'm a huge fan of darker earlier. Cozy season begins
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Earlier light makes it easier to get up earlier for the home office at least.

When working downtown, pre Covid, this was always the start of the annual month period I called “days of dark”. As I bike commuted into work I now left home on the darkness (~645’ish) and left work (5-515’ish) in the dark for my 30-60min commute each way. For a while I had an inside cubicle so wouldn’t even see daylight unless I visited an outside office or headed out over lunch. Changing DLS wouldn’t materially change this though especially through Dec and January.
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I never understood all the hand wringing. I don't even notice besides having to change my stove clock twice a year.
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Why are we still doing this nonsense?
Because literally no one can agree on what the alternative should be.

Even if we got all jurisdictions to agree to change, there’s a good chance it’d take years for everyone to agree on what we should change to.

And when that decision is finally made, there’ll be a new thread every year complaining about how we should have kept the opposite times zone.

That being said, I don’t care and don’t personally know anyone who does. I’m fine with changing to my preferred time but I’m also fine with keeping it as is.
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I never understood all the hand wringing. I don't even notice besides having to change my stove clock twice a year.
because it's stupid, and for those of us with younger kids it's a hassle, too.
my daughters internal clock on Sunday didn't tell her it's now only 4:30 in the morning. and this morning, too.
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Now the sun is right in my eyes for the 8 am commute.
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Let's be honest - changing the clocks isn't a perfect situation, but it's the best option out of all the alternatives. That's why it won't be changed.

Standard time makes most sense for our body's natural clock, but having that extra hour of sunlight in the summers is great for utilizing time outside. The penalty for having the best of both worlds in terms of sunlight is we have to change the clocks twice a year.

And get that tried trope of kids being up an hour early out of here. If you go to bed at the same time as always, you still got the same amount of sleep even if the clock says its an hour earlier.
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because it's stupid, and for those of us with younger kids it's a hassle, too.
my daughters internal clock on Sunday didn't tell her it's now only 4:30 in the morning. and this morning, too.
In fairness you should be more concerned about your daughter's internal clock telling her to get up at 5:30am.........
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Because literally no one can agree on what the alternative should be.

Even if we got all jurisdictions to agree to change, there’s a good chance it’d take years for everyone to agree on what we should change to.

And when that decision is finally made, there’ll be a new thread every year complaining about how we should have kept the opposite times zone.

That being said, I don’t care and don’t personally know anyone who does. I’m fine with changing to my preferred time but I’m also fine with keeping it as is.
Can't we just split the difference and move the clock ahead 30 mins in the spring keep them there and be done with it?
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China has one time zone, and is close to the continental USA in width.

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