08-05-2019, 07:53 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Lightning sign Shattenkirk (1yr, $1.75 mil)
https://www.nhl.com/lightning/news/t...ct/c-308437904
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The Tampa Bay Lightning signed defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk to a one-year contract worth $1.75 million, vice president and general manager Julien BriseBois announced today.
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08-05-2019, 08:17 AM
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#2
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Franchise Player
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A good cheap replacement for Stralman
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08-05-2019, 08:22 AM
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#3
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Pent-up
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#### off
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08-05-2019, 08:36 AM
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#4
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Goddammit Tampa.
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08-05-2019, 08:41 AM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Not exactly sure what people are up in arms about. Shattenkirk didn't really light the world on fire in Washington or NY
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08-05-2019, 08:42 AM
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#6
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Toonage
Not exactly sure what people are up in arms about. Shattenkirk didn't really light the world on fire in Washington or NY
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Because at 1.75 it’s killer value
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08-05-2019, 08:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Not exactly sure what people are up in arms about. Shattenkirk didn't really light the world on fire in Washington or NY
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Yeah, but on a team like Tampa he gets to really play to his strengths for dirt, dirt cheap.
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08-05-2019, 08:44 AM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Given his recent production? I guess. Just not high on the player personally.
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08-05-2019, 08:48 AM
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#9
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Pent-up
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Not exactly sure what people are up in arms about. Shattenkirk didn't really light the world on fire in Washington or NY
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Saving grace that it wasn’t SJ who landed him for peanuts, but unsurprising to see a serviceable buy out go to a stacked team.
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08-05-2019, 09:15 AM
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Ahahahahaahshbla. He's a plug. Good to see Tampa keep going for a cup with the same guys New York can't win with. Keep it up boys!!
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08-05-2019, 09:30 AM
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#12
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Location: Indiana
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I want the Lightning to be the best team in the Atlantic just so that we have to hear about the Maple Leafs slightly less.
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08-05-2019, 09:37 AM
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#13
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If we didn't have all these dang 22 year old NHL-ready defencemen clogging up the system, we could be signing re-tread projects like this.
In all seriousness, this is a great signing for Tampa, but in equal seriousness the Flames blueline depth chart is a thing of beauty.
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08-05-2019, 09:47 AM
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#14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Because at 1.75 it’s killer value
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Killer value as a 56 pt (career high) d-man he was when the Rangers signed him for 4x 6.650 to be their #1 D.
Last 2 seasons -14 23 pts and -15 28 pts. He has the 12th worst +/- over the last 2 years for all NHL d-men.
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08-05-2019, 09:49 AM
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Franchise Player
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+/- is meaningless and the only season he wasn't on at least a 40 point pace was last year. 1.75 would be cheap for even a 30 point d-man.
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08-05-2019, 09:53 AM
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Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
I want the Lightning to be the best team in the Atlantic just so that we have to hear about the Maple Leafs slightly less.
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This will have no bearing whatsoever with the media's love affair with the Leafs. The Leafs could be a giant ball of suck and would still be talked about non stop. The dysfunctional barrel of monkey crap up North is a prime example. The media also loves the Oilers because of their history and McDavid. Last year we would kick the everloving crap out of some team and the Oilers would be Oiling and the lead story would be about McDavids one point in a loss. Unless the Leafs had a practice that day, then McDavid would be the second story.
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08-05-2019, 10:01 AM
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#17
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Killer value as a 56 pt (career high) d-man he was when the Rangers signed him for 4x 6.650 to be their #1 D.
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See the problem is, Shattwnkirk was never a #1D. He was a #4, #5D from the very beginning. Who when used right is a very effective piece, but when used wrong is not.
With Hedman, McDonagh, Cernak, Sergachev, the Lightning will probably be able to properly utilize Shattenkirk without asking the wrong things if him. And with their offensive talent at forward it's probably a match made in heaven.
The rich have gotten richer.
Though I disagree that he is in any way a valid replacement for Stralman, who was one of their best 200 foot players.
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08-05-2019, 10:43 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Killer value as a 56 pt (career high) d-man he was when the Rangers signed him for 4x 6.650 to be their #1 D.
Last 2 seasons -14 23 pts and -15 28 pts. He has the 12th worst +/- over the last 2 years for all NHL d-men.
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Perhaps the problems of the New York Rangers were bigger than Kevin Shattenkirk.
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08-05-2019, 11:26 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
See the problem is, Shattwnkirk was never a #1D. He was a #4, #5D from the very beginning.
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This is a ridiculous, utterly revisionist and completely unsupportable position. Shattenkirk was a top pairing defenseman until he got to Washington. Saying he was "always a number 5"... it's just totally insane. This is like looking at the last few years of Heatley's career and saying "well he was always a bottom six forward".
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08-05-2019, 11:28 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
This is a ridiculous, utterly revisionist and completely unsupportable position. Shattenkirk was a top pairing defenseman until he got to Washington. Saying he was "always a number 5"... it's just totally insane. This is like looking at the last few years of Heatley's career and saying "well he was always a bottom six forward".
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Funnily enough, "Dany heatley wasn't a first line player" is also an actual opinion he holds.
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