Kroeger: Put down the Guitar Hero, start a real band like us - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Ronald Pagan · 11-26-2008, 02:16 PM

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/21/ni...e-guitar-hero/

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Nickelback frontman Chad Kroeger took a quick break from being preternaturally untalented to express his displeasure with music games, saying "So kids: Start rock bands. Set down the Guitar Hero, learn how to play an actual guitar and start a band, because it's hard to find more bands to put a solid rock-and-roll package together, to get out there. It's getting harder and harder, but I think we've done it."

NuclearFart · 11-26-2008, 02:25 PM

If it wasnt for Canadian content laws, this group would have the been the flash in the pan they should have been.

There's nothing wrong with playing guitar hero. I've never had any intention, nor the time, to ever start a real rock band.

Not to mention he's ignoring the fact that games like guitar hero are probably more likely to inspire more people to take up instruments in the long run, than preventing it.

cKy · 11-26-2008, 02:27 PM

I only respect Nickleback for one thing only, playing with Dimebag Darryl. Other then that, he can go play hide and go F himself.

ok, ok,....I get it · 11-26-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cKy

I only respect Nickleback for one thing only, playing with Dimebag Darryl. Other then that, he can go play hide and go F himself.

Glynn is that you?

Bobblehead · 11-26-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NuclearFart

If it wasnt for Canadian content laws, this group would have the been the flash in the pan they should have been.

Except that they also hit #1 on the US charts, too. I'm pretty sure US sataions don't need to comply with CanCon.

You don't need to like them, but a heck of a lot of people do, and those people have bought a heck of a lot of records.

Russic · 11-26-2008, 02:42 PM

Crap like this annoys me to no end. It's a ***damn video game, not real life. So many people manage to convince themselves that games like this are music simulator when in reality they are nothing more than a piece of entertainment.

Can you imagine if Jarome Iginla came out and announced that we should stop playing hockey video games and all start training to join the NHL? It isn't quite the same thing ...

I'm not even annoyed that it's chad kroeger saying it to be honest, I just can't stand that attitude.

Esoteric · 11-26-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NuclearFart

If it wasnt for Canadian content laws, this group would have the been the flash in the pan they should have been.

There's nothing wrong with playing guitar hero. I've never had any intention, nor the time, to ever start a real rock band.

Not to mention he's ignoring the fact that games like guitar hero are probably more likely to inspire more people to take up instruments in the long run, than preventing it.

Unfortunately, you're completely wrong about Nickelback.

I wish you could chalk it up to content laws, but they became and international success. Such a shame, such a disgusting shame.

RW99 · 11-26-2008, 02:43 PM

hahaha, great job Chad.

As much as I hate Nickelback, I do think these music games are lame. If I was gonna spend that much time on it, I'd learn the real one.

NuclearFart · 11-26-2008, 02:45 PM

Yup, that's why I said flash in the pan. I never denied that they've had some success in the US. My point is that having them forcefed to us canadians gives groups alot more ability to linger in the spotlight than they might be entitled to. Theory of a deadman anyone?

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Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Except that they also hit #1 on the US charts, too. I'm pretty sure US sataions don't need to comply with CanCon.

You don't need to like them, but a heck of a lot of people do, and those people have bought a heck of a lot of records.

ok, ok,....I get it · 11-26-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Except that they also hit #1 on the US charts, too. I'm pretty sure US sataions don't need to comply with CanCon.

You don't need to like them, but a heck of a lot of people do, and those people have bought a heck of a lot of records.

...uhmm...Celine Dion........

Canuck-Hater · 11-26-2008, 02:50 PM

What an ignorant prick. Even if people did start a band creating a sound like nickleback is probably gonna be the last thing on the agenda. Yeah just start a band like us and sound like all the other droning, boring, overplayed, overhyped bands on the radio today. Kroeger should have said why not become ######bags like us! right on!

Bobblehead · 11-26-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NuclearFart

Yup, that's why I said flash in the pan. I never denied that they've had some success in the US. My point is that having them forcefed to us canadians gives groups alot more ability to linger in the spotlight than they might be entitled to. Theory of a deadman anyone?

Some success?

4 Grammy nominations and over 21 million record sales.

I guess the Red Wings are just a flash in the pan who have had moderate success too.

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Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

...uhmm...Celine Dion........

I don't get your point. I doubt I could listen to he stuff, but she packed Vegas for years and she has also sold millions.

Why do people seem to think that just because they don't like an artist, the the artist is crap?

I personally don't care for Nickelback, and change the station when they come on the radio. But with the success they have had it is very clear that they are liked by a very broad spectrum of people, and I'm pretty sure that they don't need to milk any success since their latest album released a couple weeks ago seems to be doing pretty well:

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Dark Horse debuted at #1 on the Canadian album charts (60,000 Sold)
Dark Horse debuted at #2 on the U.S Billboard 200 (326,000 Sold).
Dark Horse debuted at #3 on the Australian Albums chart.
Dark Horse debuted at #4 on the UK Albums Chart. COUVES
Dark Horse debuted at #4 on the German Albums charts.
Dark Horse debuted at #19 on the Irish Albums charts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ho...ckelback_album)

kermitology · 11-26-2008, 03:00 PM

Hey Chad, how about you learn how to play a song without the use of dropped D tuning to hide your crappy guitar skills.

ok, ok,....I get it · 11-26-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Some success?

4 Grammy nominations and over 21 million record sales.

I guess the Red Wings are just a flash in the pan who have had moderate success too.

I don't get your point. I doubt I could listen to he stuff, but she packed Vegas for years and she has also sold millions.

Why do people seem to think that just because they don't like an artist, the the artist is crap?

I personally don't care for Nickelback, and change the station when they come on the radio. But with the success they have had it is very clear that they are liked by a very broad spectrum of people, and I'm pretty sure that they don't need to milk any success since their latest album released a couple weeks ago seems to be doing pretty well:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ho...ckelback_album)

The point is sales alone do not, in my opinion, fairly indicate if a band/artist are good/gifted.

Cliche · 11-26-2008, 03:08 PM

This comment was actually made due to them not being able to find additional bands to headline with them on their current tour.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/159...ckelback.jhtml

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"It's tough to find other bands out there, because either they're making a record, or they just got done touring.

I just think bands turned them down to not be associated with nickelback.

Bobblehead · 11-26-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

The point is sales alone do not, in my opinion, fairly indicate if a band/artist are good/gifted.

Perhaps, but since music is totally subjective, there is no real way to measure "good" in any fair sense. Album sales is probably about as fair as currently exists, as flawed as a method as it might be. What other metric could you use?

The Ditch · 11-26-2008, 03:11 PM

I don't know I wish I could start a band but I lack these things called, rhythm, tone, pitch, talent.....

ok, ok,....I get it · 11-26-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Perhaps, but since music is totally subjective, there is no real way to measure "good" in any fair sense. Album sales is probably about as fair as currently exists, as flawed as a method as it might be. What other metric could you use?

Oh......Music reviewers, Critics, Dudes that sit in their parents basement bloggin all day

You Need a Thneed · 11-26-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ditch

I don't know I wish I could start a band but I lack these things called, rhythm, tone, pitch, talent.....

That doesn't stop other people from trying...

and selling millions of records.

Bobblehead · 11-26-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ok, ok,....I get it

Oh......Music reviewers, Critics, Dudes that sit in their parents basement bloggin all day

How would that work?

Look at some reviews on Metacritic for Nickelback and they run from 20/100 to 80/100.

Do you include some reviewers but not others?
Do you weight some as worth more than others? Or is Rolling Stone's review worth just as much as a review for the newsletter they give out at A&W?

I think the point is that there is no right answer. Some people will love it, and that is fine. Some will hate it and that is fine. Just because I hate it does not mean it is crap.