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Old 03-10-2008, 11:04 AM   #1
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Sorry to start a new thread for a simple question, but it has to be done. I used to get very good grades in math, but apparently all that pot I smoked in high school erased my ability to calculate the volume of a cylinder.

I need to order concrete to fill some pilings at a site. I have 6 pilings that are 5 feet deep and 16 inches in diameter.

I know that the formula for volume is pi r squared h. I have imperial measurements, but need to order the crete in metric.

I first calculated that I needed 11 meters, but refused to believe it, then I calculated that I needed 4.7 meters, but that seemed too much as well. Turned out that I was using diameter instead of radius. I now have it calculated to be just under 2 meters.

WTF happened to me? This is embarrassing asking for help on this, but it'll be doubly embarrassing if I order way too much or way too little.

So, fine folks of cp, how much crete do I need in cubic meters?

After I have a consensus on the volume, we can let this thread degenerate into a 4x4 mockfest. Or we can discuss how funny it is that something so simple can be forgotten so easily.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:10 AM   #2
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8" = 0.2032 meters
5' = 5 feet = 1.52400 meters

(thank you google)

Plugging that in ((pi*r^2)*h)*6 = 1.186 cubic metres (I hope)
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:12 AM   #3
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Umm ... I get that you'd need ~1.2m^3 of crete to fill (not factoring settling, etc)

Could be wrong...
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:12 AM   #4
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Yeah, I'm getting 1.2 meters by that calculation. That seems way too little.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:13 AM   #5
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Convert everything into metric first, then do your calcs. Or use an online converter.

2 cubic meters would be ample for all 6. To be more specific:

3.14159 * ((0.66666)*(0.66666)) * 5 = 6.98117 cubic feet per piling

1 cubic foot = 0.02832 cubic meter

So 0.19771 cubic metres per piling. 0.19771 * 6 = 1.18626 cubic metres.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:15 AM   #6
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Or you could go here, then give the result to google to do the conversion:
http://www.google.com/search?q=12068...ient=firefox-a
then let google multiply by 6
http://www.google.com/search?num=30&...+6&btnG=Search
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:16 AM   #7
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That seems way too little.
That's over 42 cubic feet. So if you are buying concrete from Home Depot; about 84 bags. That's a lot.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:16 AM   #8
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I wonder if any of us could have done this without the internet though? Pretty sad, really...I used to be able to do all this unit conversion on paper.
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Yeah, I'm getting 1.2 meters by that calculation. That seems way too little.
1.2 cubic metres is a lot, a 4' x 4' x 4' box.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:20 AM   #10
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Just did the math in metric and imperial, calculating both ways and converting both ways and I still get 1.2 cubic metres any way I do it.

Of course, order a little more than what you need.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:22 AM   #11
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Just sound little to me because a driveway or basement is often up in the 5 or 6 meter range. I've never ordered 1.2 meters of crete.

But yeah, I calculated it a few times. That be the answer.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:29 AM   #12
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You're not the only one that has problems with metric conversions.

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Old 03-10-2008, 11:31 AM   #13
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Yeah, that is an odd amount of concrete to order; too small for most companies to deliver and too big to do it in bags. If you have a solid enough truck you might want to look at these guys:

http://www.u-cart.ca/
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:32 AM   #14
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I work as a civil cost estimator.. Your math is giving you the correct volume..

If you want a handy conversion tool PM me your email and ill send you a tool I use...
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:36 AM   #15
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I work as a civil cost estimator.. Your math is giving you the correct volume..

If you want a handy conversion tool PM me your email and ill send you a tool I use...
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Man, I can't believe that I'd have to google such a basic formula. I haven't ridden a bike in a couple of years. I wonder if I can still do that?
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Old 03-10-2008, 12:46 PM   #16
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Ya, 1.2 meters is kind of a awkward amount to order.

I'm not sure what the application is, but you may also want to consider getting sulphate resistant cement (depending on soil and ground water conditions). If the piles are exposed to the elements (moisture/ freeze-thaw cycles) you should also specify 4-7% air entrainment. These two modifications are relatively cheap and improve long term durability of concrete. Ask your supplier if they think it's necessary.
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Old 03-10-2008, 01:58 PM   #17
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I'd contact Theo and get him to do the calculations and work for you!
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