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Old 11-16-2007, 12:50 PM   #1
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After reading the "Ho Ho Ho" thread I remembered this email I got a while ago. I'm personally getting tired of being told what I can and can't do because it might offend someone. Apparently I'm a bad person...
(Ignore the formatting it came from a forwarded email)

Will we still be the Country of choice and still be Canada if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in Canada because it is the Country of Choice??????Think about it!

All we have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS?


I celebrate Christmas...........but because it isn't celebrated by everyone..............we can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings.

It's not Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday?

We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a problem with that.
This says itall! This is an editorial written by an
Toronto newspaper. He did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please!

IMMIGRANTS,
NOT Canadians
MUST ADAPT.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we
are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11,
we have experienced a surge
in patriotism by the majority
of Canadians. However...... the dust from the attacks had
barely settled when the "politically correct! " crowd began complaining about
the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to
Canada
Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants.
However, there
are a few things that those
who have recently come to
our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.
This idea of
Canada being a
multicultural community
has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Canadians.......
we have our own culture, our
own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.



We speak
ENGLISH/FRENCH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.
Therefore, if you wish to become part
of our society, learn the language!
"We Stand On Guard For Thee" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan.. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women.......on Christian principles.............

founded this nation..... and this is clearly documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it
on the walls of our schools.
If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as
your new home.........because
God is part of our culture.We
are happy with our culture and have
no desire to change, and we really
don't care how you did things where
you came from.
This is
OUR COUNTRY,
our land, and our lifestyle.
But once you are done complaining....... whining...... and griping....... about our flag.......
our pledge...... our national motto........or our
way of life....I highly encourage you to
take advantage of one other Great Canadian Freedom.......

THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.


It is Time for Canada to Speak up

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Old 11-16-2007, 12:52 PM   #2
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Kind of a weird, semi-racist nationalism. Although I do agree that we have a common civic creed that immigrants should follow. I mean free participation in elections, recognition of freedom of speech, legitimacy of courts and democratic procedures etc etc... I don't think that a belief in God has much to do with it.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:55 PM   #3
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Yawn.

You'd think people would get passionate about things that really matter to them instead of what school boards call december break and what companies call the holiday season.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:56 PM   #4
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God is part of our culture? Whatever. Our culture / govt would be better with no Gods of any sort.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:58 PM   #5
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Is it politically incorrect to have not read the whole thing and still judged the writer an effing moron?
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:59 PM   #6
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God is not my culture, so I guess according to the author of the e-mail, I'm a bad person, even though I am Canadian.

Honestly though, the Merry Christmas thing does not bother me. I will wish Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays, to whomever, and guess what, nobody cares.

Christmas was originally a celebration of the Winter Solstice prior to the Roman Empire adopting Christianity; the Pope bogarted the Winter Solstice and called it Christmas to help attract the people with Helenistic and other Pagan faiths to Christianity.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:59 PM   #7
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"It's time for Canada to speak up".

Who is that author to suggest their ignorant view points represent me as a Canadian?
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:00 PM   #8
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IMO, PC is an issue people need to be passionate about. Political Correctness is basically the erosion of our rights and freedoms in the name of rights and freedoms. It is an attempt at denying individuality, and more often than not, places the will of the majority below the will of a highly vocal minority.

When we live in a world where we fear to offend the unreasonable, then the unreasonable have all of the power. That is a very scary predicament.

That said, the writer is an idiot, as he is basically attempting to do the same thing as those he rails against.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:04 PM   #9
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I, having come to Canada only 10 years ago and not traditionally celebrating Xmas, made a presentation at work about the safety hazards of the Christmas season. They told me I was wrong for using the word "Christmas"
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:05 PM   #10
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IMO, PC is an issue people need to be passionate about. Political Correctness is basically the erosion of our rights and freedoms in the name of rights and freedoms. It is an attempt at denying individuality, and more often than not, places the will of the majority below the will of a highly vocal minority.
Hands up whoever feels their rights and freedoms have been eroded by political correctness.

This stuff comes up every year and I always wonder who honestly feels affected by this crap. Who cares what the mall calls Christmas?

Does these trivial nothings actually offend people?
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:05 PM   #11
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We still have our rights but a lot choose not to exercise them. For instance, the author says you can not say Merry Christmas anymore, that you have to say Seasons Greetings instead. That is a bunch of poppycock. You can say whatever you wish to say. If you don't have a spine and choose not to say what you want, don't blame it on others, specifically immigrants. Apathy is what will erode your rights, not the arrival of immigrants.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:06 PM   #12
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Not only is that article ignorant, it is terribly written. There's a difference between being PC and being ignorant.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:08 PM   #13
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We still have our rights but a lot choose not to exercise them. For instance, the author says you can not say Merry Christmas anymore, that you have to say Seasons Greetings instead. That is a bunch of poppycock. You can say whatever you wish to say. If you don't have a spine and choose not to say what you want, don't blame it on others, specifically immigrants. Apathy is what will erode your rights, not the arrival of immigrants.

Well said, very very well said.
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Does these trivial nothings actually offend people?
I don't celebrate Christmas but am not bothered or offended that I live in a Christmas-celebrating country. I just follow along and enjoy it. I especially enjoy getting 2 weeks off work

People get offended? Really?
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Hands up whoever feels their rights and freedoms have been eroded by political correctness.

This stuff comes up every year and I always wonder who honestly feels affected by this crap. Who cares what the mall calls Christmas?

Does these trivial nothings actually offend people?
Precisely. It's a big fat dictionary with a lot of words. If someone says they are offended by a word - so be it. I'll find another one to say what I mean. No skin off my nose.

Though obviously stuff like this "ho ho ho" stuff is a little silly.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:16 PM   #16
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Well after reading I thought two things. First off, wow that's thrown off my eyes and the rest of the thread looks like its in really small font
and second.
I kinda agree with that statement. I'm so tired of this P.C. world we live in. We are so worried about pleasing everybody else, and its pissing off the foundation. We all know what happens when you have a bad foundation.
I'm not saying i agree with this everything he says, but I do agree that as a White Male my culture, even if it is Beer, hockey and music, shouldn't have to be shoved aside to make other people happy
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Exactly, I used to think this god crap was a harmless thing until we found my elderly father draining his bank account to wire money to some wacknut televangelist. This a guy who never cared about religion before. I pray someone comes to my door to try and give me some religious culture.

I think sometimes the merry festive season stuff has gone to far, but then I read these emails (of which there are plenty, you non-whiteys would be suprised) and think, if this is pissing off these asshats, then I say we do it more.
LOL! Well done, sir.
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Well after reading I thought two things. First off, wow that's thrown off my eyes and the rest of the thread looks like its in really small font
and second.
I kinda agree with that statement. I'm so tired of this P.C. world we live in. We are so worried about pleasing everybody else, and its pissing off the foundation. We all know what happens when you have a bad foundation.
I'm not saying i agree with this everything he says, but I do agree that as a White Male my culture, even if it is Beer, hockey and music, shouldn't have to be shoved aside to make other people happy

It doesn't. You can live your life any which way you choose to live your life as long as you obey the laws of the land. The problem is too many people live their lives worrying about what others will think, instead of taking time to smell the roses and be happy.
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I'm not politically correct in the sense that I don't think traditional liberal-democratic values should eroded away simply to make a small, select group of people happy. I'm not talking about hockey or beer or minutae such as that. I mean the discussion of implementing sharia law in Ontario or the extended jurisprudence of the Supreme Court in favour of interest groups.

Other than that, I love the infusion of other cultures into my own.
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It doesn't. You can live your life any which way you choose to live your life as long as you obey the laws of the land. The problem is too many people live their lives worrying about what others will think, instead of taking time to smell the roses and be happy.
Well there is no doubt I fully agree with you, and have always lived the way I want to.
I just get so frusterated when I hear these can't say ho ho ho stories, or when I was living in Chicago and I was at the airport the day they took down the Christmas Tree's had to be taken down because it was focused purely on Christianity.
I feel like this country (and the states too sure) is forgetting that we are founded on a system of majority rule and we are now focusing on pleasing the minority so much that the majority is getting alienated.
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