Leaked - Cheney plan on attacking Iran - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

arsenal · 10-26-2007, 02:07 PM

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In the scenario concocted by Cheney's strategists, Washington's first step would be to convince Israel to fire missiles at Iran's uranium enrichment plant in Natanz. Tehran would retaliate with its own strike, providing the US with an excuse to attack military targets and nuclear facilities in Iran.

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/66157/

There is a lot more to this article as well. It paints a very grim picture, that the US will attack Iran at some point before Bush leaves office.

Fear mongering? Truthful? Just more saber rattling?
Discuss.

alltherage · 10-26-2007, 02:11 PM

Well if it was the plan it sure as hell isn't now. I don't think the pentagon would "leak" such information.

llama64 · 10-26-2007, 02:14 PM

What would be the motivation to strike Iran?

Is this story even credible?

Slava · 10-26-2007, 02:16 PM

I doubt its true, just because this would be such high level information if it was actually a leak.

I really hope that it doesn't happen though. More war is never a good thing.

JimmytheT · 10-26-2007, 02:17 PM

That website does not look credible at all.

Just another PCT (Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist) site, whose writers try to present their own speculations as fact.

Dion · 10-26-2007, 02:18 PM

It's my belief that Bush has been looking for an excuse to bomb Iran for quite some time. Irregardless of weather the source is true or not, Bush is having trouble finding enough suckers to fight his war in Iraq. More to the point, where is going to get the soldiers to fight that war with Iran?

Aeneas · 10-26-2007, 02:19 PM

I imagine sitting in the Pentagon somewhere is the plan to invade Canada. Also Iceland. And a plan for the amphibious assault on Vanuatu.
This leak does not prove anything either way.

worth · 10-26-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeneas

I imagine sitting in the Pentagon somewhere is the plan to invade Canada. Also Iceland. And a plan for the amphibious assault on Vanuatu.
This leak does not prove anything either way.

Very true, but you don't hear about the evil Canadians or evil Icelanders every day. War with Iran is a likely possibility.

Gulf of Tonkin anyone?

llama64 · 10-26-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

It's my belief that Bush has been looking for an excuse to bomb Iran for quite some time. Irregardless of weather the source is true or not, Bush is having trouble finding enough suckers to fight his war in Iraq. More to the point, where is going to get the soldiers to fight that war with Iran?

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=49087

There will be no war with Iran. Bush required international consent to go into Iraw. That will NOT happen again given the current situation.

alltherage · 10-26-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

It's my belief that Bush has been looking for an excuse to bomb Iran for quite some time. Irregardless of weather the source is true or not, Bush is having trouble finding enough suckers to fight his war in Iraq. More to the point, where is going to get the soldiers to fight that war with Iran?

Damn you.

Locke · 10-26-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

It's my belief that Bush has been looking for an excuse to bomb Iran for quite some time. Irregardless of weather the source is true or not, Bush is having trouble finding enough suckers to fight his war in Iraq. More to the point, where is going to get the soldiers to fight that war with Iran?

EDIT: I got beaten no less than twice to this punch! But IO was the only one who picked on 'weather' (whether) too....Irregardless.....

Anyways, I doubt this basically the logistics of it are highly improbable. If he started a war with only months left to go in his term in office I think there would be rioting. That would be the most ridiculous political scandal of our time.

Oct. 30/08 - George Bush declares war on Iran.
Nov. 15/08 - George Bush plays an 80 on Famous Texas Golf Course
Dec. 1/08 - George Bush is mysteriously flown against his will to The Hague.

Dion · 10-26-2007, 02:28 PM

The US Department of Defence has asked for an additional $88 million to modify B2 stealth bombers so that they can carry a 30,000lb bomb called the massive ordnance penetrator (or MOP, in the disarming acronymic vernacular of the military). The MOP is an advanced form of a “bunker buster”, an air-delivered weapon with an explosive capacity to destroy targets deep underground. Explaining the request, the Administration says it is in response to an “urgent operational need from theatre commanders”. What kind of emergency could that be?

Military action is not inevitable; yesterday the US again emphasised the diplomatic option with a strengthening of economic sanctions. And it’s still possible that someone will prevail on the Iranians to ditch their menacing and destructive aims. But it is starting to look as though, with not much more than a year left in his term, President Bush has decided, as he surveys the unedifying global territory of ideological and state-backed terror, that he needs to clean house.

And a 30,000lb MOP might be just the job.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle2741225.ece

Dion · 10-26-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke

EDIT: I got beaten no less than twice to this punch! But IO was the only one who picked on 'weather' (whether) too....Irregardless.....

I knew when I posted that someone would pick up on it

Locke · 10-26-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

I knew when I posted that someone would pick up on it

Thats what they all say......

Sidney Crosby's Hat · 10-26-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeneas

I imagine sitting in the Pentagon somewhere is the plan to invade Canada. Also Iceland. And a plan for the amphibious assault on Vanuatu.
This leak does not prove anything either way.

http://www.glasnost.de/hist/usa/1935invasion.html

GoFlambe · 10-26-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

http://www.glasnost.de/hist/usa/1935invasion.html

I remember my Social Studies teacher talking about this in Grade 11 and I always wanted to find a copy to read it. Obviously, the book where this was released was hard to find at the time. Thanks! After 10 odd years, I can finally read it.

Juventus3 · 10-26-2007, 10:51 PM

Time Magazine reports on the increasing sound of the US war drum:

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The prospect of war with Iran is beginning to look real. The hardening of positions in both Tehran and Washington over the past week has brought relations to their lowest point since the Iran hostage crisis that began in 1979. Both sides insist that they seek no military conflict, but tensions on issues ranging from Iran's nuclear program to influence in Iraq and the Arab-Israeli peace process is turning their differences into all-out regional power struggle. Last week, Secretary of State Condeleezza Rice criticized Iran's "emboldened foreign policy" and "hegemonic aspirations," while asserting that the U.S. will continue to be engaged on economic, political and security issues in the Middle East. "We are there to stay," she declared.

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...rss-topstories

FlamesAddiction · 10-27-2007, 12:02 AM

I doubt if the U.S could beat Iran in a war right now, and if they did go to war ith Iran, they would most certainly lose Iraq. It would be total chaos.

Does anyone know what type of relationship Iran has with China these days?

Incinerator · 10-27-2007, 12:03 AM

How is Cheney gonna finance another war? they stir any more

up and the greenback is gonna become the next peso. Good luck to whoever taking over the Whitehouse.

Juventus3 · 10-27-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Incinerator

How is Cheney gonna finance another war? they stir any more

up and the greenback is gonna become the next peso. Good luck to whoever taking over the Whitehouse.

I'm sure truthiness will prevail! US is actually hilariously arrogant sometimes.

I agree, their economy is in the pooper and the bowl is filling up by the day. That said, a lot of what we've seen with regards to the USD has actually been self imposed by the Fed to lessen the value of China's Trillion USD account holdings. Lowering the value of their dollar internationally takes away China's strangle hold on the US.