08-23-2007, 01:27 AM
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NAACP supports Vick... what about Imus?
From the NAACP website regarding the firing of Don Imus ( http://www.naacp.org/news/press/2007-04-13-02/index.htm):
"The NAACP commends CBS and MSNBC for removing Don Imus from their networks and also recognizes that further action is needed to eradicate such hurtful speech from our popular culture.
"The announcement by CBS and MSNBC that they will no longer carry Don Imus' show is a welcome first step in removing this scourge from the airwaves," said NAACP National Board of Directors Chairman Julian Bond. "Our protests against other enablers - the show's sponsors and guests -- will continue.""
From today's NAACP press conference regarding Michael Vick ( http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns):
"As a society, we should aid in his rehabilitation and welcome a new Michael Vick back into the community without a permanent loss of his career in football," said R.L. White, president of the NAACP's Atlanta chapter. "We further ask the NFL, Falcons, and the sponsors not to permanently ban Mr. Vick from his ability to bring hours of enjoyment to fans all over this country.""
I guess the merciless killing of dogs isn't as bad as telling jokes on the radio. Who knew?
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08-23-2007, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonrox
From the NAACP website regarding the firing of Don Imus ( http://www.naacp.org/news/press/2007-04-13-02/index.htm):
"The NAACP commends CBS and MSNBC for removing Don Imus from their networks and also recognizes that further action is needed to eradicate such hurtful speech from our popular culture.
"The announcement by CBS and MSNBC that they will no longer carry Don Imus' show is a welcome first step in removing this scourge from the airwaves," said NAACP National Board of Directors Chairman Julian Bond. "Our protests against other enablers - the show's sponsors and guests -- will continue.""
From today's NAACP press conference regarding Michael Vick ( http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns):
"As a society, we should aid in his rehabilitation and welcome a new Michael Vick back into the community without a permanent loss of his career in football," said R.L. White, president of the NAACP's Atlanta chapter. "We further ask the NFL, Falcons, and the sponsors not to permanently ban Mr. Vick from his ability to bring hours of enjoyment to fans all over this country.""
I guess the merciless killing of dogs isn't as bad as telling jokes on the radio. Who knew?
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Apparently. Must be because it's not racist. Apparently having a disregard for animal life is okay though.
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08-23-2007, 02:03 AM
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Anyone else hear on Opie and Anthony this morning there was a blunder, where Vick said "hey, everyone loves my d*ck"
Anyone know what that is about?
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08-23-2007, 11:59 AM
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What a bunch of hypocricy. Total losers!
I hope Vick's is washed up and ruined.
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08-23-2007, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonrox
From the NAACP website regarding the firing of Don Imus ( http://www.naacp.org/news/press/2007-04-13-02/index.htm):
"The NAACP commends CBS and MSNBC for removing Don Imus from their networks and also recognizes that further action is needed to eradicate such hurtful speech from our popular culture.
"The announcement by CBS and MSNBC that they will no longer carry Don Imus' show is a welcome first step in removing this scourge from the airwaves," said NAACP National Board of Directors Chairman Julian Bond. "Our protests against other enablers - the show's sponsors and guests -- will continue.""
From today's NAACP press conference regarding Michael Vick ( http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns):
"As a society, we should aid in his rehabilitation and welcome a new Michael Vick back into the community without a permanent loss of his career in football," said R.L. White, president of the NAACP's Atlanta chapter. "We further ask the NFL, Falcons, and the sponsors not to permanently ban Mr. Vick from his ability to bring hours of enjoyment to fans all over this country.""
I guess the merciless killing of dogs isn't as bad as telling jokes on the radio. Who knew?
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How totally bizarre. I'm not sure what's weirder--the nudge-nudge, wink-wink attitude toward animal cruelty, or the fact that the NAACP felt the need to weigh in on this issue at all, which after all has nothing whatsoever to do with race. By weighing in, are they tacitly acknowledging that dogfighting is more prevalent among African-Americans? And even if it is, why condone it in this way?
Totally weird--and not at all how I think an advocacy group should be run. The NAACP should have stayed far, far away from this one.
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08-23-2007, 12:25 PM
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How totally bizarre. I'm not sure what's weirder--the nudge-nudge, wink-wink attitude toward animal cruelty, or the fact that the NAACP felt the need to weigh in on this issue at all, which after all has nothing whatsoever to do with race. By weighing in, are they tacitly acknowledging that dogfighting is more prevalent among African-Americans? And even if it is, why condone it in this way?
Totally weird--and not at all how I think an advocacy group should be run. The NAACP should have stayed far, far away from this one.
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I think you're exactly right about them staying away.
I have no problem with the NAACP getting involved in cases where race is an issue, or where civil rights are being violated. In this case it just looks as thoug militant members of the NAACP are trying to make this look like Vick is being persecuted because he is black.
Maybe he is getting unfair attention over this, but I'd bet my left nut that it has more to do with the fact that he is a "Star" quaterback in the NFL, a league where players receive more attention than any other sport in America, then him being black.
It seems to me that by implying that these charges, or the attention generated by them is race related, does more to hurt the cause of the NAACP, than to improve it.
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08-23-2007, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
It seems to me that by implying that these charges, or the attention generated by them is race related, does more to hurt the cause of the NAACP, than to improve it.
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Exactly right.
What their intervention implies is that dogfighting somehow falls under the protection of a cultural relativism--where we have to accept it as part of "African-American culture" under the rubric of civil rights. That's of course total nonsense, but why else would they see the need to stick their noses in?
And in any case, cultural relativism has long since been revealed as a morally empty standpoint. I can accept other cultures--I'm a pluralist--but I will never accept cruelty to animals or other humans. Dogfighting is morally reprehensible no matter what your cultural background is--and by getting involved, the NAACP muddies the waters--and moreover, does a disservice to the people across the U.S. who really need their help. Millionaire athletes probably don't need their advocacy or their protection.
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08-23-2007, 01:17 PM
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Yeah...unfortunately the true reason for the existance of the NAACP has been lost behind an agenda of defending anyone and anything to do with colored people.
It was created to advance the rights of those who were victims of racism/poverty/ etc. Instead it has become ajust another political action group whom seemingly align themselves based on skin color as opposed to the actual fatcs of a case.
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08-23-2007, 02:55 PM
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They don't even offer a reason to accept him back. I mean it would be better if they said. Let's teach everyone about forgiveness and turning over a new leaf. Let's use Vick to highlight the appallingness of animal cruelty and show he has learnt his lessson.
That would make sense if they said something like that. NOT, that I'd buy that, I don't want him to work again even as a janitor, but that would have made more sense than just basically saying "he should be allowed back".
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08-23-2007, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Yeah...unfortunately the true reason for the existance of the NAACP has been lost behind an agenda of defending anyone and anything to do with colored people.
It was created to advance the rights of those who were victims of racism/poverty/ etc. Instead it has become ajust another political action group whom seemingly align themselves based on skin color as opposed to the actual fatcs of a case.
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Exactly. I think we should abolish any group whose name or purpose would sound 'kkkish' if it were representing white people. In reality it just supports reverse discrimination. Two wrongs don't make a right. Ie National Association for the Advancement of White People sounds like it belongs on the streets of Jackson MI back in the 30s.
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08-23-2007, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Yeah...unfortunately the true reason for the existance of the NAACP has been lost behind an agenda of defending anyone and anything to do with colored people.
It was created to advance the rights of those who were victims of racism/poverty/ etc. Instead it has become ajust another political action group whom seemingly align themselves based on skin color as opposed to the actual fatcs of a case.
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Exact same thing has happened to the ACLU as well. They will now defend the right of any person no matter what rights that persons actions violate. It's bizarre.
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