Realistic RFA targets

[The Original FFIV]

Lots of cap stressed teams out there, some with rfas that might be ripe for offer sheets.

Sasmoskevich from Florida is an example. Florida has blown their wad to keep the core intact. So if you went and offered $4m+ and on have to give up a 3rd, would Florida be able to match?

Have to wonder if there are some scenarios like this out there that we can take advantage of.

Interested if there are other players out there that might be good achievable targets out there that others might know of.

[bigrangy]

I don’t think Samoskevich is offer sheet eligible.

Byram and McTavish are of interest but I don’t think there’s anybody in that sweet spot of:

Only a 2nd rounder to offersheet (<$4.68 M)
Has decent upside but will still sign for that cheap
On a team that can’t afford them or doesn’t think they’re worth it

Might just be the pessimism in me but Morgan Frost probably fits the criteria the best, not sure if the Flames match at $4.68. They would match Zary tho I would expect.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

I don’t think Samoskevich is offer sheet eligible.

Byram and McTavish are of interest but I don’t think there’s anybody in that sweet spot of:

Only a 2nd rounder to offersheet (<$4.68 M)
Has decent upside but will still sign for that cheap
On a team that can’t afford them or doesn’t think they’re worth it

Might just be the pessimism in me but Morgan Frost probably fits the criteria the best, not sure if the Flames match at $4.68. They would match Zary tho I would expect.

If someone offers Frost 4.68 I definitely let Frost walk. We have Kerins who deserves ice time too.

As for Samoskevich, you're right about the OS ineligibility.

I do wonder if the Panthers would do something like Rodrigues + Samoskevich for Pospisil and Miromanov. Gives them some wiggle room, and we could use Rodrigues as a guy that can move up and down the lineup, and flipped at the TDL next season. If we prefer Pospsil over Samoskevich, then just do Miromanov for Rodrigues straight up.

[united]

I remain highly interested in Will Cuylle. I know the Flames are jammed up with middle-six wingers and heavy on left shots, but he could be a bit of a unicorn in being a player that is both effective and highly physical. Love the fit for 5+ years.

23 years old
6'3 210
45 points of which only 3 came on the powerplay
-5v5 on-ice shooting % of 11.4 so a little fortunate but not a PDO bender by any means
Kills penalties
Positive relative possession player
Tied with Pospisil for third in the league in hits

With Gavrikov rumoured to be signing with the Rangers for >$8 million, they will have at most $5 million in cap space to sign Miller and Cuylle. Assume Miller gets moved but would love to swindle Cuylle for second-round RFA compensation.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

If someone offers Frost 4.68 I definitely let Frost walk. We have Kerins who deserves ice time too.

As for Samoskevich, you're right about the OS ineligibility.

I do wonder if the Panthers would do something like Rodrigues + Samoskevich for Pospisil and Miromanov. Gives them some wiggle room, and we could use Rodrigues as a guy that can move up and down the lineup, and flipped at the TDL next season. If we prefer Pospsil over Samoskevich, then just do Miromanov for Rodrigues straight up.

Not sure why they would want Miromanov.

Samoskevich would have many teams interested, so the Panthers can do much better. Same for Rodrigues.

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by united

With Gavrikov rumoured to be signing with the Rangers for >$8 million, they will have at most $5 million in cap space to sign Miller and Cuylle. Assume Miller gets moved but would love to swindle Cuylle for second-round RFA compensation.

I like Cuylle but I don’t think he signs for less than $4.68

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by united

I remain highly interested in Will Cuylle. I know the Flames are jammed up with middle-six wingers and heavy on left shots, but he could be a bit of a unicorn in being a player that is both effective and highly physical. Love the fit for 5+ years.

23 years old
6'3 210
45 points of which only 3 came on the powerplay
-5v5 on-ice shooting % of 11.4 so a little fortunate but not a PDO bender by any means
Kills penalties
Positive relative possession player
Tied with Pospisil for third in the league in hits

With Gavrikov rumoured to be signing with the Rangers for >$8 million, they will have at most $5 million in cap space to sign Miller and Cuylle. Assume Miller gets moved but would love to swindle Cuylle for second-round RFA compensation.

Looking at the list more carefully, KA Miller, Rossi and Nick Robertson are players that have been on trade lists so those might be the ones to watch.

Pull a boss move and offer sheet Cuylle and Miller and you are likely to get one of the two.

[devo22]

with Gavrikov signing 7x7, Rangers have 6m left for Miller and Cuylle. Offer sheet time?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

If someone offers Frost 4.68 I definitely let Frost walk. We have Kerins who deserves ice time too.

As for Samoskevich, you're right about the OS ineligibility.

I do wonder if the Panthers would do something like Rodrigues + Samoskevich for Pospisil and Miromanov. Gives them some wiggle room, and we could use Rodrigues as a guy that can move up and down the lineup, and flipped at the TDL next season. If we prefer Pospsil over Samoskevich, then just do Miromanov for Rodrigues straight up.

Letting Frost walk at that salary would be mind boggling stupid. Where are you going to find a 50+ point 25 year old centre with more upside for under $5M?

[Braden]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Letting Frost walk at that salary would be mind boggling stupid. Where are you going to find a 50+ point 25 year old centre with more upside for under $5M?

Splitting hairs here but you could just as easily call him a 37+ point 26 year old centre with upside

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Braden

Splitting hairs here but you could just as easily call him a 37+ point 26 year old centre with upside

No, because historically he is more closer to a 50 point C. Coming to a new team that plays a system that makes it hard to generate offence is not a good measuring stick. Even if he is a 37+ point third line two way C that can carry the puck well it's still a no brainer to match that money given what players are making now.

[GullFoss]

Nick Cicek

[BaconGuy]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Nick Cicek

Do you think Connie can get him? He has done a good job so far, but this might be too tall an order for even him

[gvitaly]

Dylan Samberg would be a guy I'd take a flyer on. Cam York is another one. If either of them can be had for a 2nd then it would be a steal.

[GullFoss]

Bow byram I think seems plausible too

[Wolfman]

What is the stock on Alexander Holtz these days. Has he fallen off? Vegas be tough to get him signed.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

What is the stock on Alexander Holtz these days. Has he fallen off? Vegas be tough to get him signed.

4 goals in 53 games last year

[JTech780]

Any offer sheet that costs us our 2026 1st is out of the question. So we would have to keep any offer sheet under $4,680,076.

Here is a link to all the offer sheet eligible players.

https://puckpedia.com/players/search...25-offer-sheet

Anyone worth offer sheeting, is going to want more than $4.6m.

Maybe take a shot on Hendrix Lapierre.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

What is the stock on Alexander Holtz these days. Has he fallen off? Vegas be tough to get him signed.

Originally Posted by Ped

4 goals in 53 games last year

Screw it. I would give him an offer sheet for 1 year at $2,340,037. The maximum allowed where only a 3rd rounder would be required for compensation and see if he bites. He's only 23 and a recent 7th OA pick. He is so far down Vegas's depth chart at this moment and averaged less than 12 minutes per game. I might even go into the 2nd rounder territory.

The worst that happens is he doesn't accept it. Vegas is in no position to retaliate and if they accept, they'll be over the cap even with Pietrangelo on LTIR.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Letting Frost walk at that salary would be mind boggling stupid. Where are you going to find a 50+ point 25 year old centre with more upside for under $5M?

Who is this 50+ point 25 year old centre you speak of?

He is 26.

His high point total is 46, his 82 game average is 39 points and he is coming off a 37 point season. His point totals have dropped each of the last two years.

Now I agree that we should keep him at that salary of course, as he should still have upside.