05-21-2021, 12:26 PM
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#2
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Futa could be the guy but hoping for Lombardi. I worry a new GM won’t make the trades necessary as they get familiar with the organization
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05-21-2021, 12:27 PM
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#3
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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To be fair he says he thinks there could be. Didn't sound like insider info, to me anyway.
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05-21-2021, 12:30 PM
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#4
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I know I'm in the minority, but I think it will be a mistake to let Treliving go now
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05-21-2021, 12:32 PM
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#5
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I think some people are blowing his comments out of proportion. He's just speculating that big changes needed to be made whether that be the GM and/or players.
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05-21-2021, 12:32 PM
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#6
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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I really hope it's not some old boys club dude like Lombardi.
If it's not someone like Eric Tulsky then we shouldn't even bother
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05-21-2021, 12:33 PM
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#7
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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So, that's why Seravalli left TSN. He's coming here.
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05-21-2021, 12:33 PM
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#8
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Tree POHO and Futa GM was something that made sense to me.
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05-21-2021, 12:38 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CALGARY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
I know I'm in the minority, but I think it will be a mistake to let Treliving go now
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But why though? last 6 seasons- 3 first round exists, 3 missed playoffs, traded first round picks, spent to the cap each, countless coaches fired... why would it be a mistake to let go of someone with that track record?
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05-21-2021, 12:39 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
I know I'm in the minority, but I think it will be a mistake to let Treliving go now
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What state would the Flames have to be in currently for you to think Tre should be let go?
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05-21-2021, 12:40 PM
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Tree POHO and Futa GM was something that made sense to me.
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No thanks. Tre will just want to meddle in Futa's job, it is a bad idea. If Tre goes as GM he needs to go period.
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05-21-2021, 12:49 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
No thanks. Tre will just want to meddle in Futa's job, it is a bad idea. If Tre goes as GM he needs to go period.
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The first GM we’ve had to put his foot down and demand to not be meddled with is going to meddle with the next GM’s work? I doubt it.
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05-21-2021, 12:51 PM
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#13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
I know I'm in the minority, but I think it will be a mistake to let Treliving go now
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I would think he has some discussions going on for some changes, if he can't pull off a trade for a true #1 center by the draft then he has to go.
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05-21-2021, 12:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
I know I'm in the minority, but I think it will be a mistake to let Treliving go now
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True, you are in the minority, according to the poll.
I am with the majority. The guy can only say that the failure starts with him so many times before his bosses accept it as more than a platitude
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05-21-2021, 12:58 PM
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#15
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Addressing the questions from the other posters... I believe that building teams takes longer than 7 years, especially a team in the state the Flames were in when he took over in 2014. Treliving has made mistakes, but when I look at all of his moves in totality, I see more in the 'Good Move' column than the bad. For me, obviously, James Neal sucks and didn't work out at all, but you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who predicted what happened would happen when he was first signed that day. I bring this transaction up because I like that Treliving works fairly aggressively to address holes he perceives. And related to this, he had no issue moving Neal out when it was clear he sucks, which is a quality that many people don't have, as it amounts to admitting a mistake. This is a good and in my opinion rare quality to find in executives in all lines of work. It takes time (longer than 7 years) for drafting and culture change to make an impact, in my opinion.
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05-21-2021, 12:58 PM
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I think if you’re changing things up you need to start fresh.
Leftover people will have bias. This roster needs an unbiased overhaul. There are a number of good pieces. But I’d say a third of the starters need to be upgraded. My list would be:
Ritchie
Nesterov
Simon
Domingue
Question marks beside Giordano, Ryan and Lucic due to expansion draft and free agency.
Names I’d put in the pool for trades:
Monahan
Anderson
Kylington
Be nice to insert one or two younger players from the heat or recent first rounders to add some new blood. Someone like Pelletier.
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05-21-2021, 12:58 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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I just clicked on the link to see it in Twitter itself but it appears to have been deleted. Hmmm...
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05-21-2021, 01:04 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sainters7
I just clicked on the link to see it in Twitter itself but it appears to have been deleted. Hmmm...
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Here's the podcast: https://dforundown.libsyn.com/ep-30-...est_id=2625965
They start talking about the Flames around 22 minutes in. He doesn't really say much other than he thinks changes are coming and he thinks it's most-likely Treliving who will be gone.
His opinion doesn't appear to be based on any insider knowledge.
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05-21-2021, 01:04 PM
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#19
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sainters7
I just clicked on the link to see it in Twitter itself but it appears to have been deleted. Hmmm...
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Shows up for me...
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05-21-2021, 01:09 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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This seems like more speculation than even a rumor
But hope it’s true. Treliving is a terrible talent evaluator who has failed to improve the team with a ridiculously long leash as far as Hockey market GM’s are concerned. This team has zero identity and he’s the architect who spent 7 years with no blue print
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