When you have NRA-type groups who come flying out to their defense everytime there is a pit bull attack it is pretty sickening. Not only that, Calgary gets flown in 100s of pitbulls every year from the States, most of them without any documentation or previous behavioral assessments. That is just insane. The 5th estate did a report on this a few months back. It's hard to watch and it's crazy that a dad who lost his baby to a pitbull is getting online threats.
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When you have NRA-type groups who come flying out to their defense everytime there is a pit bull attack it is pretty sickening.
Yep. "Pitbulls aren't dangerous, poor owners are." The exact same way that an assault rifle doesn't kill people, bad people do.
Phase them out, let people who already own them keep them, but ban any breeding or acquiring of new one. Complete ban in 20 years. People can purchase another dog, not one that was bred for their aggression. If they don't want another dog, it's because they don't care for dogs, they care for pitbulls due to their breed's notorious habits.
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I'm not really on either side of the debate, but a question for pitbull owners:
If they bred out a Pitbull's jaw, neck and shoulder strength but the dog's general appearance (which I realize is not "standardized" or anything) and demeanor were left unaltered, would you purchase that dog?
Didn’t Ontario try this and see no drop in the number of dog bites? And that pit bulls were not even the worst offender?
I also think they didn't see much in way of a reduction of pitbull ownership because most places didn't enforce the ban. And the statistics is 'per bite' that usually gets thrown around. Not much usefulness comparing the bite of a wiener dog that didn't break skin to a pitbull bite that killed another dog. If there's statistics on 'severe' attacks out there, that would be far more useful.
Of all the dog breeds out there, no one can give me a good reason why we need to continue the pit breeds. They serve no specific purpose that cannot be filled by less dangerous dogs.
Didn’t Ontario try this and see no drop in the number of dog bites? And that pit bulls were not even the worst offender?
I don’t think Pitbulls are considered “the worst” because of the regularity of attacks/bites, but because of the severity every time it happens.
I don’t believe in banning pitbulls, I think it’s pretty asinine considering the relatively low danger they pose in general. Most are incredible dogs.
What I would support, those, is insurance for “high risk” breeds like Pitbulls, or something along those lines. Perhaps mandatory training? Pitbulls certainly aren’t a dog anyone should just get to own unchecked.
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Not the breed that is the problem. It is the owner. All dogs are capable to be aggressive as all dogs are capable of being great family pets.
Sure. But if a chihuahua snaps, what's the potential for damage as compared to if a pitbull snaps? I don't know why people can't wrap their heads around this. It's not apples to apples when saying all breeds can be aggressive. Nobody is arguing that.
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Why? because you are ignorant? How many small breeds can kill an adult human? Oh but wait. It's the owners fault.
There are also other larger breeds that are just as capable of killing a human. If every pit bull attacked humans like a wild dog I’d agree they probably should be banned as pets but the fact that there are so few incidents relative to the total number of pit bulls in the city leads me to believe there’s probably more to the issue than just the breed.
I'm not an NRA type. Look at you go throwing out stereotypes and generalisations just to bolster your point.
It's an equivalent argument. "Don't ban our assault rifles, all guns are capable of murder, all are capable of hunting - it's the owner that matters" "Don't ban our pitbulls, all dogs are capable of biting, all are capable of being good boys - it's the owner that matters." At the end of the day, when you have a bad "owner" I'd rather they have a hand gun (or no gun) the same way I'd rather they have a poodle (or no dog) over a pitbull.
There's about as much reason to own a pitbull over any other dog as an assault rifle over any other gun.
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Not the breed that is the problem. It is the owner. All dogs are capable to be aggressive as all dogs are capable of being great family pets.
I'm not an NRA type. Look at you go throwing out stereotypes and generalisations just to bolster your point.
I mean i didn't know about those million dollar lobbyists fighting for pitbulls before i watched that documentary. Do you not see the similarities?
Ok fine, even if it is the owner, do you not see the huge problem of bringing in 1000s of undocumented pitbulls from the US every year into Calgary? The organizer guy even admitted that they have no records of the dog's upbringing before they fly them up here.
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I'm not and will likely never be a dog owner so I might be uneducated on this..but I assume specific breeds are bred to have certain characteristics are they not? So why would all dogs have the same potential temperament or behaviour only dependant on the training they get from their owner? It seems self evident that some breeds would be more aggressive. Are pitbulls bred with genetic traits that could make them more aggressive?
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There are also other larger breeds that are just as capable of killing a human. If every pit bull attacked humans like a wild dog I’d agree they probably should be banned as pets but the fact that there are so few incidents relative to the total number of pit bulls in the city leads me to believe there’s probably more to the issue than just the breed.
Of course there are other large breeds that could kill a human but once a pitbull latches on, isn't it impossible for them to let go because of their bite strength?
and yes this is a stereotype but I don't want any of these "american" pitbulls in my city!
2016 Fatal Dog attack by Breeds in the US
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Time to ban Pitbulls from Calgary
