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Old 11-30-2009, 03:07 PM   #1
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Hey, a random, kind of old debate on whether you support the seal hunt or not, as it exists in Canada today?

The reason why I ask is because I just watched an older interview on Larry King Live with Danny Williams (Premier of NFLD) and Paul and Heather McCartney (representing some animal rights group).

I think this issue raises many good questions both within/outside of Canada, and I would like the input of some people here.

Is it humane?

Is it acceptable?

To what extent do people outside of Canada have a right to interfere on our internal affairs? ( our culture, values, etc. )

I recommend watching the video's on youtube ( just type Danny Williams Larry King ). Danny Williams is entertaining in his own right.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:15 PM   #2
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Danny Williams is an ass.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:17 PM   #3
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My crystal ball tells me that Suzles and dissentowner's post counts are going to spike in the next 24 hours.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:18 PM   #4
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I would say loudly:

Not humane... not even a little. Hero "hunters" hunting 'ducks in a barrel!' or helpless seal baby's sitting on a snow/ice drift...

Not acceptable... not even a little!

People have NO right to interfere with our internal affairs!!

Final... Done!

Bundle up all the hunters and shove a bat up their a--'s as far as I am concerned
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:18 PM   #5
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There are too many seals and they're a commodity. Whack away Newfies, I say.
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I'm not pro seal hunt, but I don't think that I have any right to push those values on others; as long as the hunters adhere to basic practices and avoid cruelty, they've got a right to seek a market, and the national department of fisheries have a right to act in the interests of preserving the fish stocks.

But the european anti-seal campaign is just the height of hypocrisy, given the scale of their own fur farms. As far as I'm concerned, the cruelty of raising a wild animal in a small cage for its whole life is more cruel than sealing practices, and the number of animals raised and killed in the european fur farming industry dwarf the Canadian sealing numbers.
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My crystal ball tells me that Suzles and dissentowner's post counts are going to spike in the next 24 hours.
My crystal ball is showing funny "we be clubbin'" and the like pics coming soon.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:23 PM   #8
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Fur!

I am more concerned about fish populations with the ballooning seal population. Why does no one think of the fish?

That's really the greatest danger to marine ecology and world economies and that is the dwindling fish populations and overaggressive fishing. Large seal populations eat a ton of fish too.

Fish are down to something ridiculous like 10-15% of their 1900 populations in oceans.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:25 PM   #9
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I am strongly for whatever it takes to keep these people from using those clubs on human beings.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:31 PM   #10
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Why do they need to club them? It's so primitive - it's like performing surgery with some whiskey and biting on a stick.

It's not like the seals are running away from these guys - why don't they just bend down and give them a needle or something?
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The one thing I'm curious about is whether or not the whole "cuteness factor" plays into it. If the sealers were running around hitting something that looked like rock cod or something, would people be as concerned about it?
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I'm actually in the enviable position of being for the hunt, but against the seal hunters.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:33 PM   #14
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As for the seal hunt - Yes, I am for it. I don't think people realize anymore how messy life really is. If the seal hunt helps show them that that's how life still works, that's a good thing. People need to see that more often.

As for others "interfering" in our "internal affairs" - Yes, I think they have a right. Just like we have a right to discuss their affairs. It doesn't matter where anyone is from, it's everyone's right to have an opinion. And to voice it - if we believe in the principles of a free nation, it shouldn't have caveats such as nationality. Besides, they can only really interfere in this system if we let them. In other words if we think they are right.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:34 PM   #15
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I really don't have a problem with the seal hunt.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:40 PM   #16
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Thanks 4 x 4 for reading me so well!

I am against the commercial seal hunt - the only products produced are fur (for sad people to wear) and penises for Chinese medicine - both of which the world can do without. As much as I wish the whole world was vegan, I understand wholly that some communities would find it near impossible - therefore, I can accept the Inuit taking seals for food.
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Why do they need to club them? It's so primitive - it's like performing surgery with some whiskey and biting on a stick.

It's not like the seals are running away from these guys - why don't they just bend down and give them a needle or something?
I'd like to know this as well. Why is a club the tool of choice? And does it only take one swing, or do these guys have to wail on them?
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I'd like to know this as well. Why is a club the tool of choice? And does it only take one swing, or do these guys have to wail on them?
I would imagine a club used over and over is a lot more cost effective than any other implement.
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No one clubs them anymore they're shot to death instead.
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