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Old 11-04-2010, 05:49 PM   #1
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For all you aviation types out there. Seems like the A380 might be in trouble, for some reason an engine blew up on a Qantas A380 mid-air. All flights are grounded for now pending investigation of all aircraft

http://www.aircrashobserver.com/e107/news.php?item.2199

Guess I won't be riding one any time soon.

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Only airlines with RR engines have grounded their fleets.

Airlines with IAE engines are still in operation last I checked.

There will be an investigation, but so far this is the only incident with the aircraft.
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Only airlines with RR engines have grounded their fleets.

Airlines with IAE engines are still in operation last I checked.

There will be an investigation, but so far this is the only incident with the aircraft.
yes, should have clarified all of Qantas' A380s

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Singapore Airlines has temporarily grounded their fleet as well although it is Singapore airlines so most likely they will be up in the air by tomorrow.
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:10 PM   #6
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Yes all the A380's are now automatically "in trouble"...


Do I need to put this in green text?

Edit: It's QANTAS, not Qanta.

Double Edit: Sorry if I came across as snarky, sensationalized media reporting of aviation incidents really bugs me.

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Old 11-04-2010, 06:24 PM   #7
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Footage from inside the aircraft:

Got to love how calm the flightcrew sounds during the announcement, kudos!


Landing:






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Singapore Airlines has cleared their A388's for service again:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...r-service.html
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:31 PM   #9
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http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...singapore.html

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/4973567/
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:36 PM   #10
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Fan blade blowing up maybe?
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I'm not even near being an expert, but it looks like a compressor blade and not a fan blade that went on this. Compressor blades being the ones behind the big fan blades, where the most damage is evident.
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I just think the A380's were rushed out to the airline world too fast. I have a friend who does aircraft maintainece and doesn't trust A380`s at all. He says the body is very fragile. Its more fragile then older planes.
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I just think the A380's were rushed out to the airline world too fast. I have a friend who does aircraft maintainece and doesn't trust A380`s at all. He says the body is very fragile. Its more fragile then older planes.
And has your aircraft maintenance friend worked on an A380 yet?
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I just think the A380's were rushed out to the airline world too fast. I have a friend who does aircraft maintainece and doesn't trust A380`s at all. He says the body is very fragile. Its more fragile then older planes.
Uh, the plane that just landed with a freaking hole in the wing is fragile?
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Ah yes the dreaded 3 engine approach and landing...
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Uh, the plane that just landed with a freaking hole in the wing is fragile?
To be fair it does have a hole which would constitute weak paneling.

Then again, to be able to fly stably and land it would speak otherwise so never mind.
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Weak paneling? Not much that is light in weight (weight=money for airlines) is going to be able to withstand a compressor disc exploding out at god knows what speed.

Aircraft wings are designed to be flexible and to absorb that kind of damage with hopefully minimal side effects to the aircraft. It is worth noting that the flying debris DID in fact damage some aircraft components, as upon landing not all of the spoilers on the wing deployed (hydraulic line?), and the #1 engine on the same wing had to be "drowned" by the fire trucks to shut it down. I have heard that this was a safety feature that upon some of the controls being severed to the engines the computer automatically keeps the fuel valves to open so the other engine doesn't cut out without computer input to the fuel valve.
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Uh, the plane that just landed with a freaking hole in the wing is fragile?
Pssssh, you call that a hole?











I guess they just don't make 'em like they used to.
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I'm not even near being an expert, but it looks like a compressor blade and not a fan blade that went on this. Compressor blades being the ones behind the big fan blades, where the most damage is evident.
Had a talk with my friend who worked heavy maintenance @ air canada and he agrees. Probably a second or third stage compressor blade failure or some other loose component in that area either due to a maintenance or manufacturing screw up. He's also saying the RR engines seem to be having a lot more of these than the GE / P&W engines as of late.
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Pssssh, you call that a hole?











I guess they just don't make 'em like they used to.
I wonder how well the modern composite materials in new planes would stand up to holes like that, supposedly they are a more prone to sheer stress than aluminum. Designers probably would have taken that into account tho.

For anyone interested. Here's a list of the crash rates and hull losses by airliner type that have been in the air for 2million or more flights.

777 seems to be the current safest plane in the skies.
http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm
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