Samsung Galaxy Tab. Thoughts?

[Bertuzzied]

I had an ipad for a weekend and found it too heavy to use for long periods of time. If this is under $500 i will pick one up. And what was apple thinking not having a camera on the ipad?


http://www.pcworld.com/article/20477..._yourself.html

[HotHotHeat]

My thoughts are this...

Every time someone sees one, they're going to think it's an iPad.

[alltherage]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

I had an ipad for a weekend and found it too heavy to use for long periods of time. If this is under $500 i will pick one up. And what was apple thinking not having a camera on the ipad?


http://www.pcworld.com/article/20477..._yourself.html

Sick, I didnt know Galaxy was going to be a tablet... that is sexy. They should have made the screen the same size and gone with the amoled or whatever they call the phone's display.

[FanIn80]

No USB? Weak.

(On a serious note: Stats look very good. If they make one with an LED IPS (or better) and at least the same size as the iPad, I'd seriously consider buying one. Edit: Although, that depends very heavily on how Samsung handles Android upgrades.)

[OldDutch]

The thing I find funny is how the whole world is still playing catch up to Apple 9 years since the first iPod, 3 years ago it was the iPhone, this year is the iPad.

To this date, 9 years in, not one electronics company has found a iPod, iPhone, iPad "killer". You can make the argument about Andriod phones, but software wise they are not at an iPhone level. They are still quite buggy, and the experience is not uniform from model to model. Maybe Android 3 will help, but we will see.

My point, we have heard no stop for 9 years how someone will beat Apple at their own game. However, they still lead the pack. Why? Because every so called "Apple Killer" has been half baked at best.

I dislike Apple, but time and again they have released products that a stable, and the easiest to use. Those are the products people really want.

[Rathji]

If the price is right, I would consider it.

Seems a bit small if you would like to do any real typing on it though.

[Jbo]

Samsung is notorious for abandoning phones and support weeks/months after launch. I think I'll stick with my ipad

[Jing]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

The thing I find funny is how the whole world is still playing catch up to Apple 9 years since the first iPod, 3 years ago it was the iPhone, this year is the iPad.

To this date, 9 years in, not one electronics company has found a iPod, iPhone, iPad "killer". You can make the argument about Andriod phones, but software wise they are not at an iPhone level. They are still quite buggy, and the experience is not uniform from model to model. Maybe Android 3 will help, but we will see.

My point, we have heard no stop for 9 years how someone will beat Apple at their own game. However, they still lead the pack. Why? Because every so called "Apple Killer" has been half baked at best.

I dislike Apple, but time and again they have released products that a stable, and the easiest to use. Those are the products people really want.

Which android phones have you used that were so buggy? Android in its most current incarnation (2.2) is already a better OS the IOS4.0. An iphone killer is really quite subjective. Do you mean hardware/software or sales? There are already phones that are on par if not better technologically then the Iphone, and it will be nearly impossible to dethrone the iphone based on sales due to the fact that there are so many uneducated consumers out there who believe smartphones start and end with the iphone.

[3 Justin 3]

I think all tablets are useless, but the Samsung Galaxy Tab is beyond sexy. Still don't think it'll take over the iPad even if it is better in every way. People are just too stuck up these days not to have an Apple product.

[FanIn80]

So we've now established that iPhone users are either stuck up or uneducated.

Here's a question, though... Why can't we be both?

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

So we've now established that iPhone users are either stuck up or uneducated.

If you willingly overpaid for an item by two or three times its value, you would be too

[QuadCityImages]

I would never describe Android as buggy, and certainly not compared to iOS. If you're going to complain about 2 year old phones, I'd suggest you ask the nearest iPhone 3G owner how iOS4 is working out for them. I'd call a phone being made practically unusable by a software update (that you had to freakin' PLUG your phone into a computer in order to get) a pretty big bug.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

. And what was apple thinking not having a camera on the ipad?

That they can release a new version of the ipad a year later with a camera and all the fanboys that lined up day one for the original ipad will be in line again for version 2.

[silentsim]

Originally Posted by QuadCityImages

I would never describe Android as buggy, and certainly not compared to iOS. If you're going to complain about 2 year old phones, I'd suggest you ask the nearest iPhone 3G owner how iOS4 is working out for them. I'd call a phone being made practically unusable by a software update (that you had to freakin' PLUG your phone into a computer in order to get) a pretty big bug.

That's fixed as of September 8th

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by QuadCityImages

I would never describe Android as buggy, and certainly not compared to iOS. If you're going to complain about 2 year old phones, I'd suggest you ask the nearest iPhone 3G owner how iOS4 is working out for them. I'd call a phone being made practically unusable by a software update (that you had to freakin' PLUG your phone into a computer in order to get) a pretty big bug.

Will be fixed this week. The CEO of the company admitted these bugs to the world in his keynote. Nice try though.

[sclitheroe]

That’s a good looking tablet. It’s not for me, as I’m too heavily invested in the Mac and iTunes ecosystems.

I sincerely hope they haven’t screwed it up by cheaping out on the touch screen components, using a non-glass display, etc. Basically any aspect of the design that affects the speed and accuracy of physically interfacing with the device. I fear the worst though, seeing as its half the weight and not physically much smaller. There must be lots and lots of plastic on this thing.

Other than the weight of the iPad, did you find, using a tablet, that it was a good fit for you? That’s the most important thing - if it suits your work/play/mobile computing style or not. Otherwise, it’s going to sit on the shelf regardless of model or features.

[Jing]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

So we've now established that iPhone users are either stuck up or uneducated.

Here's a question, though... Why can't we be both?

If this is in regards to my post I apologize. I don't mean that all iphone users are stuck up or uneducated. There are many people who are well versed in regards to mobile technology that use the iPhone, and I agree that it is a nice product. However, the majority of the North American consumer base is very uneducated when it comes to phones. Apple has done a tremendous job with their marketing to push the product and establish a loyal consumer base. Ask most people about basic phone things (unlocking, specs, bands, mobile browsing) and most wont know.

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by Jing

If this is in regards to my post I apologize. I don't mean that all iphone users are stuck up or uneducated. There are many people who are well versed in regards to mobile technology that use the iPhone, and I agree that it is a nice product. However, the majority of the North American consumer base is very uneducated when it comes to phones. Apple has done a tremendous job with their marketing to push the product and establish a loyal consumer base. Ask most people about basic phone things (unlocking, specs, bands, mobile browsing) and most wont know.

If you have to sell your phone on the merits of unlocking, raw physical specs, bands, etc, you’ve already lost the war. Smart phones aren’t just for the technologically elite anymore - people want something that works, that they hopefully already have some familiarity with, and that has an easy intuitive interface. Apple has done a great job in this regard. Android phone makers are getting there, for sure, and Blackberries are still like command line Unix - great for power users, weird for "the rest of us" when it comes to the user interface.

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by Jing

However, the majority of the North American consumer base is very uneducated when it comes to phones. Apple has done a tremendous job with their marketing to push the product and establish a loyal consumer base. Ask most people about basic phone things (unlocking, specs, bands, mobile browsing) and most wont know.

So what other products do I have to know about specs, bands, unlocking and other such esoterica about? Do you know how your cable or DSL modem operates, at a signal level? Do you fully understand the inner workings of TCP/IP and the HTTP protocol? How about C++, did you learn that to understand how your browser was written?

Calling people uneducated about technical stuff is unfair - they likely know things about things that you don’t, just as you know things that they don’t about things. It’s all relative, and as a technology like mobile phones mature, they become more accessible to the masses simply because everyone doesn’t need to be an expert on the esoterica.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Jing

If this is in regards to my post I apologize. I don't mean that all iphone users are stuck up or uneducated. There are many people who are well versed in regards to mobile technology that use the iPhone, and I agree that it is a nice product. However, the majority of the North American consumer base is very uneducated when it comes to phones. Apple has done a tremendous job with their marketing to push the product and establish a loyal consumer base. Ask most people about basic phone things (unlocking, specs, bands, mobile browsing) and most wont know.

Ah... Now that's a point I'll willingly concede. Stuff like that drives me nuts, too.

But that's also the beauty of what Apple brings to the table. We need the non-geeks in order to inflate the market to a size large enough to necessitate change. Look at data plans before and after the iPhone. Look at the application landscape. Look at the hardware and the services that are now available.

Without the sheer numbers that Apple has brought to the table, and their willingness to demand the kind of changes they did, we'd all still be paying $25/MB and surfing the net on a WAP browser while talking about how awesome our new SD card slots are.

Apple took what was once a geeky, business-focus market and converted it into a massive, retail force almost overnight. And those "uneducated users," while annoying, are the very reason that we're even able to have conversations about exciting new devices in the first place.