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Old 08-18-2010, 08:58 AM   #1
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As I am heading to the NHL season opener in Helsinki in October (MIN vs. CAR), I thought I might start gathering ideas of things to see and do and cool places to go there from those who live there or have travelled there. I hear Finland is the best country in the world.

Recommendations for hotels (in terms of location and price), places to eat and most importantly places to drink are all very much appreciated!
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:32 AM   #2
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I was in Helsinki for a few days in Feb 2006, so it's been a while and I imagine it's a different place when it's not the dead of winter, but I recall a few highlights. I can't help with lodging or food really, I stayed in a cheap hostel and ate either cheaply or while drunk.

Suomenlinna Island was really cool, it's an old fortress/village across the harbor from the center of town that is full of little shops, museums, and park space. Pretty interesting place as well as a good spot to relax for a bit.

The National Museum was interesting, definitely learned a lot about the history and culture of the country there. The Kiasma modern art museum was one of the highlights of my trip, had a lot of the typical modern art, but a few of the things had that sort of dark humor twist that I found prevalent in Helsinki. The sno-globes depicting people falling through thin ice and other morbid scenes were particularly bizarre.

As for bars, I remember getting absolutely destroyed at a place called 'On the Rocks' which I beleive was off the main square by the train station. I generally stuck to the old school rock bars around town, which there were a few of, and found them to all be pretty fun but quite expensive. There's a bar/music venue called Tavastia (next door is a smaller palce called Semifinal) that hosts some pretty popular bands, might be worth checking out what's going on there. I caught a Finnish folk singer/Comedian one night, no idea what was being said but I laughed anyways.

One big recomendation I'd have is to take the ferry across to Tallinn, Estonia if you have the time. That city is absolutely amazing. Still my favorite place in the world.
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I strongly second the Tallinn recommendation. There's a great design district in the southern part of Helsinki, full of museums and shops. Unfortunately, we didn't have good luck with food when we were there. Everything we had was overpriced and fairly average, especially after being in Copenhagen and Stockholm. Not to say that good food doesn't exist there, we just didn't find it. In general, it's a great city for just strolling and people-watching.
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I liked Tallin a lot more too. I was in Helsinki for 2 days, but I can't give a lot of recommendations. (sorry)
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I was there about 10 years ago. I was sad not to be able to go to Tallinn on the ferry, as my mother is Estonian.

Helsinki itself is a really nice city. Clean, very pleasant, if a bit boring. I was there in early July and because it is so far north there was never really any proper darkness. Sun set around 11:30 and rose at about 3:30am with only dusk in between.

Also went and saw a Neil Young concert on Canada Day in their main hockey arena, which was bad ass.

One thing you'll notice about Finland is the incredible gene pool. Walking down the street is like walking through a supermodel convention. Canada has pretty women, but the sheer proportion of hot women in Finland is something to behold.
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I was there about 10 years ago. I was sad not to be able to go to Tallinn on the ferry, as my mother is Estonian.

Helsinki itself is a really nice city. Clean, very pleasant, if a bit boring. I was there in early July and because it is so far north there was never really any proper darkness. Sun set around 11:30 and rose at about 3:30am with only dusk in between.

Also went and saw a Neil Young concert on Canada Day in their main hockey arena, which was bad ass.

One thing you'll notice about Finland is the incredible gene pool. Walking down the street is like walking through a supermodel convention. Canada has pretty women, but the sheer proportion of hot women in Finland is something to behold.
Couldn't agree more. There's a collision of Scandinavian and Russian/Slavic going on there that creates some amazing women. The combination of dark hair and bright blue eyes was staggering.
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:48 AM   #7
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We're definitely planning on going to Tallinn on the ferry. Was going to make it a day trip but judging from the high praise we might have to make it an overnighter.

I definitely found Stockholm, Oslo, and Copenhagen all to be full of supermodel-looking types so I expect no less from Helsinki. In fact I met one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen in Sweden--and she was actually Finnish. Anyway, I'll be in Helsinki with my girlfriend but I am sure she'll be checking out the nordic talent too.
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Old 08-18-2010, 02:12 PM   #8
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Well I live here, but I guess I know too much to have easy answers. I'll just flood you with information until I'm bored

Couple of good choices are definitely hitting some rock bars, since that's something we have plenty of. For example try heavy metal karaoke, that's not something you get everywhere.

Helsinki is also a very good place to eat well right now, as the quality places are very reasonably priced. The cheap/mid-price food on the other hand are IMO mostly overpriced, so I'd recommend spending that extra cash at least once for some fine dining. Especially if you're going with a girl

For example you can get a Finnish-style three-course meal for 39 euros at Ateljé Finne, which is a very good deal since the food is good. (Just don't ask the waiters for wine recommendations, get the owner or pick yourself.) Juuri has pretty much the same price range and quality of food, with possibly slightly more modern/cross-kitchen touch. (These are just a couple of options, there's really quite a few good places, I can give a whole list if you feel like it.)

There are also a couple of good budget options, most mentionably New Bamboo Center, which is a Malesian place. They serve great curry for what is a very reasonable price for Helsinki (around 8-9 euros I think these days). Asian buffets are generally of good value here.

As to drinking, that of course depends heavily on what you're looking for. The metal bars are mostly places for some relaxation beer or ten, easygoing, not necessarily the most social places. There are some more club-like rock bars, On the Rocks and Dante's Highlight, which are also less of metal-head places, for better and worse (mostly for the worse if you ask me). Oh and Bar Bäkkäri, which is big and relatively new and I know very little about it.

For some hipster moods you could try for example Kuudes Linja or LeBonk. Bar Loose is the definitive place for some alternative/rock people, although that doesn't necessarily say that much about the place. Anyway it's a nice bar, quite popular and one of the very few options here if you want your rock with little less metal. Tavastia is legendary, although it's for the tradition and quality of live music, it's nothing special as a drinking spot. Good DJ's usually though. Same goes for Semifinal (which is a part of Tavastia), which is a great place if you're the kind of people who like to go check out something cheap and obscure.

For some more popular-yet-trendy places, you could try Jenny Woo, The Circus or Teatteri (for a 25+ crowd).

If you're just looking for a nice selection and a nice atmosphere, I'd say there's tons of choices. Pub Amsterdam for example, Kaisla, William K's (there's several)... Really quite a good selection. Molly Malone's is a relatively old Irish pub with live music just about every night, for better or worse. It has a nice terrace. Everything is expensive though, but that's Finland for you.

If you're looking for a really Finnish experience without caring about the quality of music, there's places like Pataässä (a legendary/notorious karaoke-dump), Zetor (kitch/parody version of countryside nostalgia), Rymy-Eetu (semi-german) and Kaarle XII (horrible music, but plenty of dancing). Huuma is propably the most generic Finnish party-place you can find, which is not a compliment but it does give you a picture of a stereotypical popular drinking spot in Finland (although it's bigger than most). For the best guarantees of other people dancing, other than Kaarle XII you could check out bar Lost&Found (legendary for it's small and crappy dance floor, but there's usually some dancing even on the weekdays) or if you're the openminded sort, Don't Tell Mama (a hetero-friendly gay bar, guaranteed dance music). Lost&Found and DTM are both at Iso Roobertinkatu (or Iso Roba as people call it), which has about six other bars too in the two block walk, many of them good places.

Hotels I know much less about obviously, since I live here The selection is typicly Finnish, which means it's hard to find anything cheap, but for 80-100 euros you can sleep in as close to the center as you like in clean and decent rooms. Book well in advance, Helsinki is a popular congress city.

Omenahotels can be quite cheap (there's several, you book through a website), but it depends a lot on the day. There's zero service (not even a reception), but the I understand the rooms are new, nice (in a slightly sterile way) and clean, so they can be very good value. They're all nicely located, very close to each other.

The hostels are clean and okay too I hear, although not that cheap (compared to hostes in other parts of Europe). Eurohostel for example is quite popular, I guess it's okay.

There's two hotels within walking distance of the Hartwall Areena (where they play the game), Sokos Hotel Pasila and Holiday Inn Messukeskus. Neither is anything special, and a couple of kilometers from the city center.

Now, sightseeing... Suomenlinna is nice, although it depends somewhat on the weather. It's a short and cheap ferry trip and a big sea fortress at the other end. If you feel like spending the money and the weather is nice, take a sightseeing boat. Finland has the most islands in the world, thousands of small islands all across the coastline, including Helsinki. It's very unique and some people like it a lot. I hear the National museum is nice and informative, although it's been ages since I've been there. I don't recommend the zoo, you can find better ones anywhere.

The Mannerheim-museum is pretty cool if less known place (most people from Helsinki propably haven't gone there). It has it's own webpage (in English too).

Check out Senate square for my favourite church in the world (although being an atheist, I rarely go inside) One of my favourite walks is around the Töölönlahti (Töölö-bay). It has some nice old villas on the other side and it's just very nice and relaxing and very central, which is cool.

Hmm, is that long enough now? I guess.

But hey, you always ask if you think of something specific, I mean I could go on, and on...
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Now I want to go to Helskini. Thanks, Itse. Guess I'll have to settle for Denmark in Autumn instead.
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Couldn't agree more. There's a collision of Scandinavian and Russian/Slavic going on there that creates some amazing women. The combination of dark hair and bright blue eyes was staggering.
My company has a design center in Helsinki, maybe I should find some way to get transferred there.
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A "supermodel convention"? And the men all look like Olli Jokinen, so you get an idea why it's a country of great opportunities.

Well, walking down the street, sometimes it feels that way to me as well, sometimes not so much.

Ideally, you want to go during summer as the warmth and the sunlight makes a big difference when it comes to street atmosphere - and the clothing and general outlook of the people. Octobers get a little chilly.

I've lived in Helsinki and I still go there regularly. On the surface, it's boring and a bit cold and distant, but the women are indeed nice, especially during summer (although I don't know if they're any better than anywhere else - now Estonia might be a different story). Some like the architecture. Comparatively, it's a great city to live in, but I'm not sure it's the most interesting place to visit.
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Sorry for the bump, but we are going to book our hotel shortly and in addition to the advice Itse provided already, is there a particular area in town we should look at staying in? Easy for transport and with cool places to eat and drink nearby?
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Couldn't agree more. There's a collision of Scandinavian and Russian/Slavic going on there that creates some amazing women. The combination of dark hair and bright blue eyes was staggering.
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I was in Helsinki in April as a result of that silly volcano and this is absolutely true, and when I was in downtown Moscow I thought there was some kind of supermodel convention going on and the models were just walking around on the street. Riding the metro in both cities was a pleasure.
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Sorry for the bump, but we are going to book our hotel shortly and in addition to the advice Itse provided already, is there a particular area in town we should look at staying in? Easy for transport and with cool places to eat and drink nearby?
This pretty much covers everything that's "not far".

http://maps.google.fi/maps?oe=utf-8&...ed=0CDgQtgMwAA


Helsinki is tourist-friendly in the sense that most things of interest are stacked around downtown, which means south of the Central railway station essentially, with Punavuori being the hippest of the hip I guess. I guess Punavuori and Kaartinkaupunki would be the best choices if you want to try find some nightlife, and it's the best area for many types of restaurants. Kluuvi, Kamppi, Katajanokka, Kruunuhaka and Hakaniemi are all solid choices too.

I have to warn you though, you'll be here at just about the quietest time of the year.

Some places I've heard people like:

Hostel Erottajanpuisto (cheap that time of the year, great location, propably a great choice if you can get a room).

Hotel Rivoli Jardin I hear is nice and not overly expensive, you can occasionally get really good deals.

Omenahotellis are good for price/location/quality.

This is all hearsay. I live hear, I don't need hotels here
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