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Bertuzzied · 07-02-2010, 09:58 AM

My worst fears come true. If my Shiba ever booted she would be extremely hard to catch. Is the airport that big that it took them 2 days to find her?
And what is a de-icing pond?

The dog became separated from her owners at the airport on Monday when her kennel was being moved by baggage handlers and the door somehow opened.
Ayumi, who weighs about seven kilograms, ran off as ground crews tried to track her down until it was too dark to continue.
It wasn't until Wednesday that she was located tired, scared and hungry by WestJet staff. She was also checked out by a vet after dipping into a de-icing pond.

Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/Puppy+r...#ixzz0sXc4Us5r

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Puppy+r...080/story.html

mykalberta · 07-02-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Is the airport that big that it took them 2 days to find her?

Is that a serious question?

Look at a map of Calgary, the Airport takes up about 2X the amount of land that downtown Calgary takes up and is likely equal to Nose Hill Park.

Also, if the dog ran out of where the planes are loaded then you need tower clearance to search for the dog as they arent going to stop arrivals and departures to find a dog.

I am not surprised that the door somehow opened. Alot of people put their pets in these cheap petsmart kennels with a simple latch.

Bertuzzied · 07-02-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mykalberta

Is that a serious question?

Look at a map of Calgary, the Airport takes up about 2X the amount of land that downtown Calgary takes up and is likely equal to Nose Hill Park.

Also, if the dog ran out of where the planes are loaded then you need tower clearance to search for the dog as they arent going to stop arrivals and departures to find a dog.

I am not surprised that the door somehow opened. Alot of people put their pets in these cheap petsmart kennels with a simple latch.

I just mean it's just open land. there are no trees or dense bush for him to hide in.

HeartsOfFire · 07-02-2010, 11:10 AM

Yes, there is all that open land and few places to hide, but in all fairness, it is just a dog. No resources would have been spent to search for it, and no one would be expected -- or even allowed -- to go out of their way to look for it. At best, a memo would be sent out to the staff 'If you happen to see a dog' yadda yadda yadda.

If the dog was on a run-way, it would likely get reported by ATC. At that point, they would have to consider how much traffic is in the air and how many landings/departures they have to make in the next 15 minutes. If there's just one plane waiting to come in or one plane waiting to depart, odds are they would have them wait (unless the arriving plane was low on fuel) until the Dog was removed from the runway.

Otherwise, the dog then becomes expendable.

Table 5 · 07-02-2010, 11:23 AM

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And what is a de-icing pond?

Basically a big pool of anti-freeze (for de-icing the planes when it's cold out). I guess it's out in the open...

4X4 · 07-02-2010, 11:30 AM

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Basically a big pool of anti-freeze (for de-icing the planes when it's cold out). I guess it's out in the open...

Seriously? Why wouldn't they use a tank to contain it? Can't be. A big pond of what, ethelyne glycol? Wide open for any wildlife to land in or drink from? Say it ain't so.

mykalberta · 07-02-2010, 11:32 AM

The "pond" they talk about is just some glycol on the ground. They dont keep them in "ponds" incase someone is worred about some wayward ducks landing in a tailing pond of glycol.

I dont know how YYC does their deicing, whether right at the gate or at remote deicing pads or at a facility like YYZ has.

Either way it wouldnt have been much of a pond. Most likey some of the more anal retentive airlines asked for some deicing for some early morning flights as it wouldnt be needed for any other this time of year.

4X4 · 07-02-2010, 11:44 AM

So by pond, they meant puddle?

lucky1 · 07-04-2010, 06:02 AM

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So by pond, they meant puddle?

The deicing pond is the concrete containment that is used to collect all the deicing fluid run off. When they spray the glycol on the plane, it drips off onto the tarmac..the deicing areas are sloped to alowl the free glycol to drain into a containment area for collection and reuse

drewboy12 · 07-04-2010, 07:14 PM

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Seriously? Why wouldn't they use a tank to contain it? Can't be. A big pond of what, ethelyne glycol? Wide open for any wildlife to land in or drink from? Say it ain't so.

Its a large pond. Lake like. It has fountains to prevent wildlife from entering. Im not sure if they also have noise cannons. Two days is also amazing, Ill try and find a link to the show dog you roamed JFK a few years ago for 7 months before finally being caught.

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drewboy12 · 07-04-2010, 07:21 PM

Link I promised... I guess the dog was never found...

http://www.americanwhippetclub.net/awcpages/vivi.htm

drewboy12 · 07-04-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mykalberta

The "pond" they talk about is just some glycol on the ground. They dont keep them in "ponds" incase someone is worred about some wayward ducks landing in a tailing pond of glycol.

I dont know how YYC does their deicing, whether right at the gate or at remote deicing pads or at a facility like YYZ has.

Either way it wouldnt have been much of a pond. Most likey some of the more anal retentive airlines asked for some deicing for some early morning flights as it wouldnt be needed for any other this time of year.

No its a decently sized "pond"... see picture above.

Dan02 · 07-04-2010, 09:29 PM

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No its a decently sized lake... see picture above.

from the picture you provided it looks just barely bigger then some of the aircraft in the picture. Not really what i'd define as a lake... small pond perhaps.

drewboy12 · 07-04-2010, 10:32 PM

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from the picture you provided it looks just barely bigger then some of the aircraft in the picture. Not really what i'd define as a lake... small pond perhaps.

ya pond "fixed", couple hundred feet across. I'm not sure how deep it is.

Was just making it clear what it actually is and that in fact it actually is an open "pond" not a small puddle, as some people posting in this thread where saying otherwise. Was just clearing it up. Don't shoot the messenger

LGA · 07-05-2010, 12:22 AM

If my Shiba booked I probably wouldn't ever see him again unless I got really lucky.

That simple fact makes me miss my Doberman, who I could probably have left in the middle of a forest and wouldn't have to worry about losing her as she'd find her way home.

mykalberta · 07-05-2010, 10:26 AM

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No its a decently sized "pond"... see picture above.

Do you know for sure thats what that is for? I dont doubt that lake exists, I just dont believe its there for open air glycol storage for recovery and reuse.

If it was for what people say than other airports would have the same thing. I know for a fact YEG does not have that. Glycol would be considered a hazardeous material and would be vaccummed up, not allowed to drain into some pool.

Ryan Coke · 07-05-2010, 11:36 AM

He is absolutely correct. It is a holding area for the runoff used glycol for recycling.

The new stuff is stored in 'tanks'.

And if he wind blows a nice gentle breeze to the SE, it can really reek around the airport.

drewboy12 · 07-05-2010, 08:27 PM

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Do you know for sure thats what that is for? I dont doubt that lake exists, I just dont believe its there for open air glycol storage for recovery and reuse.

If it was for what people say than other airports would have the same thing. I know for a fact YEG does not have that. Glycol would be considered a hazardeous material and would be vaccummed up, not allowed to drain into some pool.

Yep as Ryan Coke said, I am 100% sure. I work at the airport, and personally find ti disgusting. The smell is terrible, but it is picked up by vacuum trucks off the Tarmac, and dumped into the storage pond. It is held there and then recycled. I don't know how it is recycled or how often trucks pump it up. But I have never once seen an animal near it, not even birds. So there must be something preventing them.

Diamondhead · 07-05-2010, 09:51 PM

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Link I promised... I guess the dog was never found...

http://www.americanwhippetclub.net/awcpages/vivi.htm

FWIW a whippet is not like most other dog breeds. They can't be left alone in a backyard or off leash for any period of time as their instinct is to chase. A showdog like that would never have been trained to be off leash.

Bertuzzied · 07-05-2010, 11:06 PM

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Yep as Ryan Coke said, I am 100% sure. I work at the airport, and personally find ti disgusting. The smell is terrible, but it is picked up by vacuum trucks off the Tarmac, and dumped into the storage pond. It is held there and then recycled. I don't know how it is recycled or how often trucks pump it up. But I have never once seen an animal near it, not even birds. So there must be something preventing them.

maybe they all melted into the toxic pond.

I can't believe they leave it out in the open like that.