Mother who drowned her two sons, commits suicide.

[Regulator75]

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/09...n_3945324.html

I couldn't find the old thread.

The Daily Telegraph in Sydney says a woman's body discovered beneath a bridge in West Gosford is believed to be that of Allyson McConnell.

The newspaper says a member of the public discovered the body and a crime scene has been established, but the death is not considered suspicious.

McConnell was given a six-year prison sentence after her sons Connor, two, and 10-month-old Jayden were drowned in a bathtub in 2010 in the family home in Millet, south of Edmonton.

She served 15 months in a psychiatric hospital after taking into account time served before her trial and was deported to Australia shortly after she was released April 4.

[oilyfan]

Severely mentally unbalanced, she was sexually abused by her father, and got pregnant by him. This is probably the only way she was going to get some peace, many people will ask whether she deserves this peace.

What she did to those kids is heartbreaking, and I cannot even imagine the fathers grief, this probably gives him some closure too. But this whole story is a tragedy.

[Nyah]

Sad story all around. It was clear she was a really troubled individual with a messed up past.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by oilyfan

Severely mentally unbalanced, she was sexually abused by her father, and got pregnant by him. This is probably the only way she was going to get some peace, many people will ask whether she deserves this peace.

What she did to those kids is heartbreaking, and I cannot even imagine the fathers grief, this probably gives him some closure too. But this whole story is a tragedy.

I didn't know that, but somewhat explains how she ended up where she was mentally. sad for everyone involved. I don't know if her father is still alive but I hope he is racked with guilt.

[Canehdianman]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

I didn't know that, but somewhat explains how she ended up where she was mentally. sad for everyone involved. I don't know if her father is still alive but I hope he is racked with guilt.

Really?

I hope he died. horribly and painfully.

[Bill Bumface]

I hope his skull was impaled by a couple of tree branches, and then he got really bad sunburn on his nose and then everyone in town will call him rudolph and laugh. Take that!

[killer_carlson]

I find it very difficult to have any sympathy for McConnell.

The surviving father of the kids she murdered, I have tremendous sympathy for. For her, tough time finding any.

[Coys1882]

Mental illness sucks.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I find it very difficult to have any sympathy for McConnell.

The surviving father of the kids she murdered, I have tremendous sympathy for. For her, tough time finding any.

Originally Posted by Coys1882

Mental illness sucks.

This, if what is said about her life is true, she was not dealing with a full deck.

[Regulator75]

Small update.

EDMONTON - The lawyer for a mother who drowned her two children in a bathtub in rural Alberta says the woman had become emotional at the christening of a friend's new baby before she killed herself in Australia.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

I find it very difficult to have any sympathy for McConnell.

The surviving father of the kids she murdered, I have tremendous sympathy for. For her, tough time finding any.

I have sympathy for McConnel in the fact that the mental health system failed her. It came as no suprise to hear she had comitted suicide.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by oilyfan

Severely mentally unbalanced, she was sexually abused by her father, and got pregnant by him.

Holy hell. I've never heard that. Any chance you have a link where I can read that? Poor woman.

She was very tortured, clearly. Perhaps now she has found peace or whatever. I saw a statement from her ex-husband's family - it was very gracious, in light of everything.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Minnie

Holy hell. I've never heard that. Any chance you have a link where I can read that? Poor woman.

She was very tortured, clearly. Perhaps now she has found peace or whatever. I saw a statement from her ex-husband's family - it was very gracious, in light of everything.

Here you go.....

Court also heard McConnell had a history of depression and suicide attempts that began when her father got her pregnant when she was 15.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/09...n_3950801.html

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by Dion

I have sympathy for McConnel in the fact that the mental health system failed her. It came as no suprise to hear she had comitted suicide.

No. The system did not fail her. There were lots of programs available to her, to avoid the brutal ending to those innocent children She murdered her own children. There is something very, very wrong with a person who does that. I cant believe she was allowed out in the first place.

The mental health system needs help, there is no doubt about that, however there are some actions so unnatural and sick that i think it is short sighted to blame the system for the horrible actions of a very disturbed individual.

The blame here rests with McConnell.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

No. The system did not fail her. There were lots of programs available to her, to avoid the brutal ending to those innocent children She murdered her own children. There is something very, very wrong with a person who does that. I cant believe she was allowed out in the first place.

The mental health system needs help, there is no doubt about that, however there are some actions so unnatural and sick that i think it is short sighted to blame the system for the horrible actions of a very disturbed individual.

The blame here rests with McConnell.

Yes it did fail her.

A forensic psychiatrist who had been working with McConnell at Alberta Hospital testified there was no evidence the drownings were motivated by vindictiveness or malice toward the boys’ father, and that he believed McConnell killed the children as “an extension of her own suicide.”

During an emotional two-week trial in Wetaskiwin in 2012, court heard McConnell had attempted suicide several times throughout her life, beginning when she was 15 and pregnant with her father’s baby. Testifying at her own trial, McConnell told court she had been feeling “pretty much just buried in a load of crap” in the period before the slayings, and was feeling “increasingly overwhelmed and useless.”

She admitted to searching the Internet for information about death by electrocution, starvation, strangulation, hanging and drowning, but said she wanted to only hurt herself.

She was receiving some medical attention, but she had said in the trial herself that she saw nothing for her in the future other than more attempts at suicide,” he said. “That was the state she was in during the trial. I thought she was somewhat improved when I last saw her (in April), but clearly still deeply depressed.”

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...811/story.html

Dispite all of the above they released her and deported her to Australia. She should never had been released and kept in custody where she could have gotten more treatment. As I said in an earlier post, i'm not suprised to hear she comitted suicide.

[Northendzone]

Perhaps I missed the background, but can someone expand on how the system failed her? Because when I read that, I interpret it as she was undergoing some type of mental treatment and then she was pronounced fit. None of the stories I read indicate that she was under any type of treatment

[nieuwy-89]

There should be a special place in hell for anyone who murders their own children. I can't think of a more vile betray of trust. What a horrible way for those two beautiful boys to die.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Not knowing the case at all, from what I can gather it was a woman suffering from Post Partum Depression and receiving treatment. The treatment itself was not successful and unfortunately there were three people who died as a result. I don't know if that is the health care system failing, or just the fact that no treatment program is 100% effective. After that she did spend time in a psychiatric hospital as part of the court ruling, however when she was released, she was deported. As you would expect with someone who was found guilty of manslaughter.

Frankly at that point in time sending her back to Australia to be closer to her family and support systems may have been the most humanitarian thing to do.

Edit: I fully believe she is a victim, not of the health care system, but rather of a debilitating disease.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by nieuwy-89

There should be a special place in hell for anyone who murders their own children. I can't think of a more vile betray of trust. What a horrible way for those two beautiful boys to die.

Mental Illness is a special hell for those suffering. Sane people don't kill their children.

[killer_carlson]

I guess where we disagree is whether the system should 100% cure someone or if they bear some responsibilty at some point.

The courts found her culpable for ending the lives of her children. That isnt the system, it is a sick, sick person.