Mossad accused of assassinating a high ranking HAMAS official in Dubai
Not getting too much media attention, but this is an interesting story
A high ranking HAMAS figure was murdered in his hotel room in Dubai. Fingers are being point at MOSSAD and the hit team are now on Interpol most wanted list.
Personally, this is the cleanest way to take out a target compared to the usual smart bomb as there was no collateral damage
However, surprised that this blew into the open as much as it did. If it was Mossad, they been doing this so well for so long, that having the faces of the hit team published so fast seems very surprising.
And you don't see Mossad agents getting caught on CCTV, or using other peoples passports or credit cards that tie back to American banks.
Nevermind the fact that the passports used were of people with dual citizenship to Israel. Real people. Why the heck would Mossad steal passports of other people if they could just make their own? Cover identity is easy to come by when you're talking about Mossad, CIA, etc, etc.
Sorry, but this is one big overblown 'accuse Israel' hyped up, media driven story by people who are apparently too stupid to actually look at the facts.
Oh, and according to a Hamas investigation, they suspect that it wasn't Israel but Palestinian agents instead.
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I was taught a Grad-level university class last fall by a former Mossad agent. Very interesting guy, and easily one of the best International Affairs classes I've ever taken.
That said, I wouldn't want to **** with him. He looked harmless, but could probably kill a bear with his own two hands.
When I was doing intelligence studies, Mossad and other Middle Eastern security services were the gold standards in intelligence gathering.
The CIA gets all the movie glory, and all though they have been better in the past decade, they aren't as good as other countries.
One of the reasons is that most Western intelligence services have much more bureaucracy and are not as agile.
China is a growing power in the intelligence field as well.
And you don't see Mossad agents getting caught on CCTV, or using other peoples passports or credit cards that tie back to American banks.
Nevermind the fact that the passports used were of people with dual citizenship to Israel. Real people. Why the heck would Mossad steal passports of other people if they could just make their own? Cover identity is easy to come by when you're talking about Mossad, CIA, etc, etc.
Sorry, but this is one big overblown 'accuse Israel' hyped up, media driven story by people who are apparently too stupid to actually look at the facts.
Oh, and according to a Hamas investigation, they suspect that it wasn't Israel but Palestinian agents instead.
I agree. Mossad is too good at this sort of thing. That's the thing with repuatation though, Mossad is so efficiently ruthless that they get the blame even if they did or not.
Think about it though, even if they STEAL someone else's passport they would still have to doctor it to switch the picture, right?
So why not just make your OWN passport?
Plus, if they doctor it to change the picture, they'd have to change the picture in every single database around the world. Easy to change the picture on the passport, but not so easy to change your picture in the Interpol, FBI, CIA, NSA, or any other intelligence service database.
For those of you who might be wondering, Canadas' intelligence agencies work primarily with the US, Britain, Australia and New Zealand under the UK-USA Security Agreement. I would figure to guess that most intelligence sharing done between Israel and Canada does not get done without the American's or British approval - especially when it's dealing with terrorism matters specifically.
I'd almost say that the Mossad was more dangerous than the CIA. That being said, you don't see the CIA getting caught on CCTV.
Kind of off topic but the NSA makes the CIA look like girl scouts. I believe the NSA is as big as all the other agencies (FBI, CIA, ATF etc) combined. I'm not sure exactly to what extent the NSA runs covert ops like the CIA though.
That doesn't really have much to do with your post, just the mention of the CIA being less dangerous brought that to mind.
Kind of off topic but the NSA makes the CIA look like girl scouts. I believe the NSA is as big as all the other agencies (FBI, CIA, ATF etc) combined. I'm not sure exactly to what extent the NSA runs covert ops like the CIA though.
That doesn't really have much to do with your post, just the mention of the CIA being less dangerous brought that to mind.
NSA is responsible for signal intercepts and interpretation, satellite usagage and routing, they are also responsible for the encryption technology that the U.S. government uses. They're also the guys that have the automatic search automation and encryption ability to monitor emails.
But to my recollection, they don't have field agents and don't run black ops, thats all CIA.
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I think nsa primarily tasked with signals intelligence and stuff, identifying threats to U.S. interest from both within and abroad. Monitoring phone and internet traffice. They don't require field agents as much. FBI and ATF are basically just national police force. CIA seems to have their hands in everything, both covert and on the battlefield (afghanistan).
Also, don't most G8 countries have strict policies against assasinations? who knows what they do behind the scenes but in general, they do no take part or condone assasinations while Israel full on admits and carries them out?
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It's kind of crazy to think that there are actually people out there who work for the government and have no problems about suffocating someone with a pillow. That's up close and personal for sure.
"Two Palestinian suspects are being questioned about the murder. Police said the pair fled to Jordan after the killing, but were extradited back to Dubai on Sunday."
"He says that although none of the Dubai 11 are in custody, there are the two Palestinians and more evidence might be coming out of them.
The BBC's Katya Adler in Jerusalem says more details of the two have emerged.
Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Suhri told the BBC the men were members of the Palestinian Authority's security apparatus.
They were originally from Gaza, he said, but fled the Strip three years ago when Hamas took over the territory."
Most likely Palestinians involved, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was Mossad after all. I really don't know why this story is getting as much press as it is. This wasn't a large political leader killed. It was an arms dealer for a militant group.
Mossad is probably calling the CIA right now and yelling at Langley for botching the one job they trusted them to do.
That is more believable given the guy with the beer gut in the video.
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If there was ever a time where the CIA is most Badass, I believe it would be in the past few years.
After 9\11 The Bush administration basically gave every branch of the armed forces a blank check and a green light to do whatever they want, I think under the authority of the Patriot act (not sure about that)
That included Special forces and most likely CIA black ops.
I can't remember where I read it, (maybe it was here) but there was an article about real life "Jason Bournes" and "Treadstones" (Minus the amnesia of course) and how after 9\11 a CIA task force was set up for the sole purpose of finding and assassinating key terrorist targets.
The catch was that real life was nothing like Hollywood and the risk and logistics to successfully pull it off wasn't worth it. They were better off using branches of the military that specialize in anti-terrorism.
Mossad accused of assassinating a high ranking HAMAS official in Dubai
