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60 Minutes Jan. 17th (a must watch)
I implore everyone to watch tonight...the first segment is on Haiti and the carnage and devastation. It literally is an "attempt to organize chaos" as an army sargeant says in the piece.
It is raw and heart wrenching, but it is also completely eye-opening and will allow us all to understand the massive undertaking that they are facing in trying to help.
Mind boggling....however you will see where there is a small glimmer of hope as there are a couple things starting to make a dent. A couple miraculous survivor stories and a recovery.
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Thanks for the heads up. I don't usually (or shall I say, ever) watch 60 minutes, but I find this whole Haiti situation really difficult to even comprehend. I'm interested to watch and gain some insight.
let's quit trying to solve 'social, societal, and natural disasters' all over the world and worry about our own backyard.
Haiti and other third world countries around the globe will never be prosperous unless they are under the unfettered control of governments that ARE NOT CORRUPT.
Haiti was much better off when they were still under the control of the French.
That's a fact.
let's quit trying to solve 'social, societal, and natural disasters' all over the world and worry about our own backyard.
Haiti and other third world countries around the globe will never be prosperous unless they are under the unfettered control of governments that ARE NOT CORRUPT.
Haiti was much better off when they were still under the control of the French.
That's a fact.
... okay. But right now, there are hundreds of thousands (millions, maybe?) of people who apparently don't have water, shelter and food. So the corrupt government problem takes a backseat to needing water and shelter?
let's quit trying to solve 'social, societal, and natural disasters' all over the world and worry about our own backyard.
Haiti and other third world countries around the globe will never be prosperous unless they are under the unfettered control of governments that ARE NOT CORRUPT.
Haiti was much better off when they were still under the control of the French.
That's a fact.
If only the people in Haiti were lucky enough to wax on about geopolitics from the comfort of your first-world living room.
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I watch 60 Minutes every week, and always find it interesting/fascinating. Will definitely be tuning in tonight.
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... okay. But right now, there are hundreds of thousands (millions, maybe?) of people who apparently don't have water, shelter and food. So the corrupt government problem takes a backseat to needing water and shelter?
Granted.....but do you beleive 1/4 of those millions of dollars in earthquake aid dollars will actually reach those that need it?
I think not.
Something like 1/3 of Haiti's GDP is made up from Foreign assistance from Western governments.
Kudos to the Canadian government for sending the armed forces in to rescue that elementary class volunteering there.
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Earlier I saw some footage of Haitians going through empty boxes that had held food previously (aid from somewhere) and it looked like a scene of complete caos and desperation. 20 or 30 guys frantically throwing boxes around trying to see if there was any scrap of food left.
Just an FYI - people who think Canada doesn't have a vested interest in the future of Haiti and its government should do a little reading on the Ottawa Initiative.
Just an FYI - people who think Canada doesn't have a vested interest in the future of Haiti and its government should do a little reading on the Ottawa Initiative.
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Granted.....but do you beleive 1/4 of those millions of dollars in earthquake aid dollars will actually reach those that need it?
Ummm yeah i do...because the money isnt going to the Haitian government, its going to the literally thousand of relief agencies on the ground there. I know some of the people on the ground there, and believe me, they dont need anythig from any government officials, just what they fly in and distribute.
in fact...there is no government in Haiti right now per se....the entire infrastructure of that country is gone.
Beyond all that....take this political angle to some other thread please, this is about helping over a MILLION displaced innocent people who had little and now have lost that.
This is for those interested in the depth of the disaster and how they may help...this particular segment will give people an idea which way they may want to lean as far as agencies go.
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I used to watch "60 Minutes" every week. Except if you set the PVR to record it, you only get "10 Minutes" with 50 minutes of extra football at the start.
I spoke with my mother last night and she said she will NOT watch any news on Haiti. Because it's very, very hard to watch such devastation without falling into depression, particularly when there is little that you can do (other than donate money) to help with the situation. When the disaster is close to home, you can do something. But here, it's just punishing yourself. And in a way, I agree. It does make me wish there was more we could do. If anything, I take the OPPOSITE tact of 1st land: this isn't the time to say we shouldn't be helping Haiti in the future, but maybe there should have been a better co-ordinated effort in the past. Families living in burned out cars isn't right and it took an earthquake for people to see the devastating poverty that already existed there before.
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It doesn't interest me any more than the other millions and millions of unfortunate people out there. In fact I always get turned off by the media hype over disasters like these.
If it gets media coverage and famous people vow to help it then it gets a lot of air time and exposure. Yet there are literally dozens and dozens of examples of regions around the world in which people are living like the people right now in Haiti, except instead of being victims of a natural disaster, they are victims of other men's oppression. We don't ever give them the time of day.
That isn't a knock against the 60 minutes special, I quite enjoy their stuff. I just don't find this any more disturbing and heart wrenching than the stuff that goes on every single day and gets little to no coverage in the media.
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In fact I always get turned off by the media hype over disasters like these.
Im sorry you are put out by the million+ people that suddenly and violently lost everything they had at the hands of an earthquake, have no way to move rubble so they can recover the dead bodies of loved ones, or worse, rescue living and trapped ones. I am sorry you are "turned off" that thousand upon thousands of children were orphaned or killed. I am sorry you are bothered that media is covering an estimated 350,000 people who had a home a week ago, and now do not so are trying to survive in the streets among dead bodies.
I feel bad for you......no actually i feel sorry for you.
let's quit trying to solve 'social, societal, and natural disasters' all over the world and worry about our own backyard.
Haiti and other third world countries around the globe will never be prosperous unless they are under the unfettered control of governments that ARE NOT CORRUPT.
Haiti was much better off when they were still under the control of the French.
That's a fact.
Let me get this straight. You are saying that Haiti was a better place 200 hundred years ago when it was a French slave colony?
60 Minutes Jan. 17th (a must watch)
