12-24-2009, 02:32 PM
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First Line Centre
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Need Electrical Help!!!
I blew it...literally. I hate electricity and messin with it, but I painted all our walls and am now replacing the receptacles and face plates. Anyhow, I put the new ones on exactly how the old ones were wired. In the dining room the receptacles had 2 whites, two blacks. I put the new ones on the same, and all is good. In the kitchen though, I have one red, one black, one white. When I wired the new ones exactly the same, flip the breaker back...poof. Elecrtric flash on the breaker panel, and the breaker is blown I guess. I don't know what the hell to do. is there anything I can do, other than get someone who knows what they're doing? If it matters, I took all the receptacles off, taped the wires, and tried to flip the breaker back, but it still wants to stay in blown position. Any help appreciated.
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12-24-2009, 02:40 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Are you reinstalling the original recepticles back in their original locations, or have you bought new ones?
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12-24-2009, 02:43 PM
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First Line Centre
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They are new.
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12-24-2009, 02:50 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Let me first say that I'm not an electrician, so this is purely second hand information as I recall from reading some thread previously... As I understand it, you will need to split the live side of the outlet. There is a little tab that you need to break. By default, the top and bottom of the outlet are wired together.
I'll try googling for a diagram
Last edited by Jedi Ninja; 12-24-2009 at 02:55 PM.
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12-24-2009, 02:56 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedi Ninja
Let me first say that I'm not an electrician, so this is purely second hand information as I recall from reading some thread previously... As I understand it, you will need to split the live side of the outlet. There is a little tab that you need to break. By default, the top and bottom of the outlet are wired together.
I'll try googling for a diagram
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Yup... I see what yer sayin.. I'll go try it. Thanks. I'll let you know How I make out.
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12-24-2009, 03:19 PM
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First Line Centre
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Jedi sir, YOU ROCK! That's exactly what it was. Damn tiny little tab you can barely see. That was driving me mental trying to figure it out. Lousy timing for today to boot. A billion thanks! CP ROCKS.
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12-24-2009, 03:25 PM
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Franchise Player
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This thread is the epitome of what is great about this site.
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12-24-2009, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedi Ninja
Let me first say that I'm not an electrician, so this is purely second hand information as I recall from reading some thread previously... As I understand it, you will need to split the live side of the outlet. There is a little tab that you need to break. By default, the top and bottom of the outlet are wired together.
I'll try googling for a diagram
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Well done!
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12-24-2009, 04:26 PM
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Threadkiller
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Yes indeed, Jedi, what you said was known as a split-receptacle, which has to be installed as such by code in kitchens, although its only a newer regulation. Most older houses will not have this. By having the tab still there, two live feeds were opened to the ground, and the result was predictable.
Glad to hear you got it sorted, and that everything was OK.
Last edited by ricosuave; 12-24-2009 at 06:14 PM.
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12-24-2009, 05:07 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Buzzard
Jedi sir, YOU ROCK! That's exactly what it was. Damn tiny little tab you can barely see. That was driving me mental trying to figure it out. Lousy timing for today to boot. A billion thanks! CP ROCKS.
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To that, all I have to say is, Merry Christmas! Glad I could help.
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12-24-2009, 05:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricosuave
Yes indeed, Jedi, what you said was known as a split-receptacle, which has to be installed as such by code in kitchens, although its only a newer regulation. Most older houses will not have this. By having the tab still there, two live feeds were opened to one neutral, and the result was predictable.
Glad to hear you got it sorted, and that everything was OK.
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Actually the tab caused a phase to phase short and thats why the breaker blew.
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12-24-2009, 05:29 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Nufy
Actually the tab caused a phase to phase short and thats why the breaker blew.
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Yes I went threw that myself a year ago, I was totally confused and embarrassed because other than myself almost my whole family were electricians, hell, I was helping my dad wire houses and buildings starting at 6 years old, I thought I knew it all...then they add the damn tabs to make me look stupid in front of my GF 
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12-24-2009, 05:41 PM
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Threadkiller
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nufy
Actually the tab caused a phase to phase short and thats why the breaker blew.
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Yep. Meant bonding, not neutral. Egg nog is a powerful thing.
Last edited by ricosuave; 12-24-2009 at 06:14 PM.
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