Calgary's just hit the conservative big-time (plus it's really cold!)

[Hack&Lube]

Yes, we are on the front page of the Drudge Report as millions of Americans will be reading this in the morning and AM 660's hosting and advertising will get a sudden giant spike because Matthew Drudge found another convenient story of the day to fuel his anti-global warming agenda.

http://www.drudgereport.com/

But yeah, Calgary was colder on Dec 14th than it has ever been since 1893.

[Caged Great]

nm

[The Goon]

I can't believe the Drudge Report is still up and running. We should probably blame Matt Drudge for the state journalism is in today.

[Resolute 14]

He should link to the Liberals' ridiculous "assassinate Harper" photoshop that they had on their official party website too.

[driveway]

That article from AM 660 is confusing as hell. I mean, just read this sentence:

The record low temperature for Calgary is minus 32.2 set in 1893. The last time the city hit minus 40C was in 1997.

So... -40 in 1997 doesn't count as a record low for what reason now? Or is the -32.4 degrees we hit on monday just the lowest temperature we've ever recorded on December 14th?

The four people who collaborated to write the two hundred word article need some writing classes.

[Pastiche]

As posted in another thread: weather is not climate.

[Calgaryborn]

Yeah I noticed the mention of Calgary as well. I was most impressed that Drudge didn't feel the need to identify the country or province. He obviously thought Calgary was familiar enough to his readers not to.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Pastiche

As posted in another thread: weather is not climate.

Temperature is climate. Temperature is weather.

If you can't predict the global temperature from year to year or decade to decade you shouldn't be trusted to accurately predict global temperatures 30 years or a hundred years down the road.

[Slanter]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Temperature is climate. Temperature is weather.

If you can't predict the global temperature from year to year or decade to decade you shouldn't be trusted to accurately predict global temperatures 30 years or a hundred years down the road.

[Pastiche]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Temperature is climate. Temperature is weather.

If you can't predict the global temperature from year to year or decade to decade you shouldn't be trusted to accurately predict global temperatures 30 years or a hundred years down the road.

*Whoooosh*

[mykalberta]

Havent you heard. Global warming is an inconvenient truth they cant prove except with random tree cores from Siberia where they only pick the ones that only fit in the hockey stick graph and wont release raw data results to any other scientists so their theories cannot be proved or disproved.

Its now called Climate Change, not Global Warming and not the World Welfare Plan.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Pastiche

As posted in another thread: weather is not climate.

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Temperature is climate. Temperature is weather.

... if you intended to imply that therefore weather is climate (and it looks like you did), you've just completely and untterly discredited everything you've ever posted.

[Weiser Wonder]

If anyone thinks a record low in a random city is evidence that global warming isn't happening, they are an idiot.

[jammies]

Hey, it's pretty nice today! GLOBAL WARMING IS BACK ON, BIZNITCHES!

[evman150]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

If you can't predict the global temperature from year to year or decade to decade you shouldn't be trusted to accurately predict global temperatures 30 years or a hundred years down the road.

Fallacy of division. Good try though.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by SebC

... if you intended to imply that therefore weather is climate (and it looks like you did), you've just completely and untterly discredited everything you've ever posted.

My intention was to show temperature is related to both. The mantra "weather is not climate" is used to disregard temperatures that don't fit with climate warming. If the temperature was breaking records for warmest on record it would be sited as another proof of global warming. Yet that's not what is happening.

The fact still remains that global temperatures have cooled since the 98 high and no one predicted it in their climate change models. This has occurred even though carbon dioxide emissions have increased every year. It would be irresponsible for any government to trust large chunks of their wealth to science that is unproven. Proof would consist of climate change models that predicted temperature changes accurately.

The next fall back argument is that we can't afford to take the risk of doing nothing in case these current models turn out to be right. Of course that argument ignores the severe consequences that making the changes they say are required will have to our society. It's like having open heart surgery for a heart ailment that might or might not be a health hazard in the future if left alone.

[Nuje]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

If anyone thinks a record low in a random city is evidence that global warming isn't happening, they are an idiot.

True.

I don't believe it's happening, but that most definitely is not a reason that I'd cite.

[Finny61]

Help us Tom Cruise!! use your witchcraft on our climate and save us!

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by driveway

That article from AM 660 is confusing as hell. I mean, just read this sentence:



So... -40 in 1997 doesn't count as a record low for what reason now? Or is the -32.4 degrees we hit on monday just the lowest temperature we've ever recorded on December 14th?

The four people who collaborated to write the two hundred word article need some writing classes.

I'm glad you posted this cause I was about to jump in and say that there's no way Sunday was the coldest day in over a century. I can think of about 3 others that were worse. I remember even hearing about a day that was unofficially the coldest because the wind chill (gusting blizzard conditions) put it in the high -50's. Like I said, that's not an official temp, because they don't count that. But I do know we've had colder says than Sunday.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

The fact still remains that global temperatures have cooled since the 98 high and no one predicted it in their climate change models.

For those interested:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...onsense&page=3
http://www.skepticalscience.com/glob...ed-in-1998.htm