Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-01-2009, 11:51 AM   #1
Engine09
Franchise Player
 
Engine09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default Winter Bikers

Never thought I would be one of those lunatics biking to work during the winter but I've actually been enjoying the past few days. Just bought my bike this past spring and don't want to stop due to the weather.

Must be a few of you guy here, any tips?

What do you wear to keep your face warm and your upper body from getting too hot?

Do you run studded tires? Switch to softer rubber for the winter months or simply lower tire pressure? Elbow/knee pads in case you bail?
Engine09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2009, 11:57 AM   #2
habernac
Franchise Player
 
habernac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
Exp:
Default

It's a learning process really. I've never run studded tires as I hate the rolling resistance. Low tire pressure and extreme care around ice is the key. That said, I am thinking of getting a cyclocross bike and trying the studded tire thing there (my old mountain bike is just too damn slow, I've been spoiled riding my road bike in).

For my face, goggles are a must. When it gets really cold, I have a neck warmer on or just a scarf. It isn't easy to keep your goggles from fogging up, though.

I have a cycling jersey, a warm, long sleeved winter cycling shirt and a gore tex shell to keep me warm. I start shedding layers if I get too hot.
habernac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2009, 12:03 PM   #3
Bill Bumface
My face is a bum!
 
Bill Bumface's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Exp:
Default

I thought of doing this, but it seems highly not worth it for my ride which is just over 10 minutes. I like it in the summer because I can ride in my work clothes and take it easy when it's cooler in the morning and not be a sweaty mess and have to take shower supplies, and then bring shorts and a t shirt and go nuts on the way home when it's hotter and worry about showering there. In the winter I'm guessing I would spend more time getting dressed/undressed and showering after I'm a sweaty mess from too many layers than actually riding? For this reason I've been sticking with the 12 minute bus or train ride. I'd rather ride, but it seems like it'd be a major hassle.
Bill Bumface is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2009, 12:09 PM   #4
You Need a Thneed
Voted for Kodos
 
You Need a Thneed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Exp:
Default

I try to bike when it's cold, though snow on the ground usually makes me not bike. I don't have studded tires, but I want to at least look at some, so I can ride through a little bit of snow. Last winter, I changed my route to more on the street, where the snow melts off.

I bought a thin balaclava at Mark's Work Wearhouse that fits nicely under my helmet. I don't have goggles, but I do have glasses. If I wanted to ride a little bit colder, I'd probably look at getting some goggles to fit over my glasses.

I didn't ride when it got really cold either, but my shell jacket over a long sleeve T shirt was fine until about the -15 that I rode at. Cold for the first couple of minutes, but then, when you start going, you stay warm.

I've got some louis Garneau cycling gloves that have a built in extra cover to slip over the fingers for extra warmth when I need it. For this year, I bought a yellow cycling jacket from MEC for extra visibility.

I've got a headlight, a taillight, extra reflective tape all over my bike and helmet, 3m reflective straps around my pant legs.

Last edited by You Need a Thneed; 12-01-2009 at 12:17 PM.
You Need a Thneed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2009, 12:24 PM   #5
kermitology
It's not easy being green!
 
kermitology's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
Exp:
Default

I have to say that riding home last night with the low cloud lighting up the night in an orange glow was really really nice.

I generally ride all year round, lights are a must, and try to stay off roadways if you can. I didn't use studded tires last year, and I only had one major fall where I either severely bruised my hip or cracked it (it was bruised for about 6 weeks), but that was my fault for going too fast around a corner..

Make sure you're visible to drivers, and take it easy when there's ice..

For clothing, I have a North Face summit series soft shell with a long sleeve running shirt that I wear underneath and usually an old ratty t-shirt. I didn't use goggles last year, but it's a good idea, I couldn't see crap on Friday trying to ride home. I stopped at the East Village and met my girlfriend who had the car.. she wouldn't have been comfortable driving in the snow anyways.

For pants, I have a pair of MEC cycling pants.. I recommend wearing shorts or something over them because they wear out really quickly if you don't.

That combination generally keeps me warm down to -15 or so.
__________________
Who is in charge of this product and why haven't they been fired yet?

Last edited by kermitology; 12-01-2009 at 12:26 PM.
kermitology is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2009, 12:30 PM   #6
Engine09
Franchise Player
 
Engine09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
It's a learning process really
True, I never realized that staying cool would be an issue but I'm learning that after keeping your face and hands war that you're just fine.

Quote:
extreme care around ice is the key
I've done a lot of dirtbiking into the fall and have had that front tire slip out on me a few times, extremely dangerous. A lot of ice in the shade of those foothills.

I thought that studs were a must but I've talked to a few people who don't even bother. Plus 80% of my ride is along the river pathway which stays clear of snow/ice most of the time.

Will look into goggles, I imagine that they will fog up less than the shades I'm using now.

Have a headlamp that straps to my helmet but completely forgot about a taillight. On the shopping list.
Engine09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2009, 01:56 PM   #7
I-Hate-Hulse
Franchise Player
 
I-Hate-Hulse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
Exp:
Default

Woot for riding to work! You're immune to situations like last Friday where nothing moved, including buses. My commute was the same 15 minutes it always is. I ride in everyday to work downtown, -40 or not. Riding at an easy pace, I'm able to get away without the need to shower or anything, and can also wear less gear.

I'm going to list all my gear - you don't need to get it all at once. Just build on what you have already and tweak things here and there as you need to.

Cold Weather Gear

- Gloves - get a few pairs for differing weather. I have a pair of Descente Coldfront for 5 to -10 degree temps. I also have a pair or regular old Windstopper Fleece gloves that work well from -5 to -20 temps. When it it's -20 I'll break out the lobster claw gloves with an glove liner (pair of thin jogging gloves works for me) to really ward off the cold. Hands get cold really fast so it's worth it to put a few bucks into this.

Headwear - when it gets to -15 or so and the wind freezes your face, I go with a neo/fleece mask from Serius. MEC used to have these, but doesnt look like it anymore. These velcro up in the back so it's easy to put on. I also use a pair of 180's earmuffs to keep the ears from freezing in all temp ranges. Again, when it's -20 or below I'll use a thin microfiber running tuque below the helmet to keep warm.

Eyewear - I have a pair of Oakley Flak Jackets in clear / amber / dark lenses. Huge difference in that they don't fog up like my old Smiths did. Well worth the upgrade IMHO.

Jacket - whatever you've got. I personally use a puffy down North Face jacket, but will toss a North Face Shell over it when it hits -25.

Pants - I wear dress pants and a shirt so I don't have to change at work so some protection against cold and splashing is a must. I use a pair of Patagonia Alpine Pants which have been awesome. A dork strap to make sure your pant cuff doesn't get ripped up in your chain ring is critical.

Bike Equipment

- Wet lube - chains rust like a mofo in salty slush. Slather this stuff on weekly.
- Fenders - I put these on so I never have to worry about spray and rooster tail. Some like the simple deflector shield thing in the front, but I want maximum coverage so I go for the full coverage Planet Bike ATB fenders.
- Tires - Believe it or not, I still ride with my freaking semislick IRC Advantage Pro tires. I used to run knobbies but I found that the snow and ice packs into the tread and turns them to semi slicks anyways. I do drop the PSI a bit 5-10 psi though. Really though it's not your tires but your riding style that matters (see below).
- Lights - you'll need some riding in the dark. Front and back.
- Disc Brakes rule in the wet!


Riding Style / My Rules For Winter Riding

- Be prepared for a fall at any time.
My riding tends to be on the busier sections of the pathway and through streets and alleys downtown. Lots of turns and braking where I can bail. As such I drop my seat a good inch so I can be prepared to put a leg down on the ground to stop what feels like a skid. The ability to do this quickly is important when it gets icy. Unfortunately, dropping your seat comes at the expense of optimum riding position - but speed isn't the issue here.

- Hit objects perpedicular only.
Treat any curb, be it 0.5" or 4" tall, as something that will kill you if you fail to take it perpendicular. 90% of my falls in the winter comes from this. Basically a wet frozen curb meeting your wet frozen tire at a narrow angle will slide off like skates on ice. Tires like to go forwards, not sideways. If there's only one thing you learn, learn this rule! This is applicable for any object you may have to ride over, like snow humps or tracks left by cars.

- Brake before the turn
Just like driving. Reduce the amount of traction required of your tires in a turn. Slow down before you make a turn in case the apex of the turn is icy.

- Rear brake only when slippery.
Skidding with your rear tire is controllable, and sometimes even fun. Skidding with your front tire is death.

- Crud is your Enemy.
As a bike commuter, you will become like an Eskimo and have several words to describe snow. Fresh deep snow is actually quite easy to ride in. The worst snow is crud. After a deep snowfall and it warms slightly and cars mix in dirt. It takes on a sand like consistency which means when you turn your handlebars to steer nothing happens. Means for a bit of walking on my street sections. Crud will kill you.



Quote:
Originally Posted by hulkrogan View Post
I thought of doing this, but it seems highly not worth it for my ride which is just over 10 minutes. I like it in the summer because I can ride in my work clothes and take it easy when it's cooler in the morning and not be a sweaty mess and have to take shower supplies, and then bring shorts and a t shirt and go nuts on the way home when it's hotter and worry about showering there. In the winter I'm guessing I would spend more time getting dressed/undressed and showering after I'm a sweaty mess from too many layers than actually riding? For this reason I've been sticking with the 12 minute bus or train ride. I'd rather ride, but it seems like it'd be a major hassle.
That's the same situation I'm in. I just wear a full dress pant and shirt under my gear. The pants have a button and fly so they're easy to get on and off and it takes me about 10 seconds to do so in my own office. No change rooms needed. Like you said, go easy and you won't break a sweat. I also pick a slightly lighter than desired jacket so that generated body heat isn't an issue.

Last edited by I-Hate-Hulse; 12-01-2009 at 02:04 PM.
I-Hate-Hulse is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to I-Hate-Hulse For This Useful Post:
Old 12-04-2009, 11:58 AM   #8
Engine09
Franchise Player
 
Engine09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Lots of great info in here, thanks guys.


That was a fun ride in, took off for work late this morning and just as the wind/snow hit. Pedaling through the snow drifts and against the wind is quite a workout.
Engine09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2009, 08:42 PM   #9
twotoner
Backup Goalie
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Exp:
Default

Great advice from all above. I'd add a crystalyte 5304 and 20 amp hours of li pings finest. Gets me from airport to COP in 45 minutes (took an hour today due to the snow).
http://www.ebikes.ca
http://www.pingbattery.com/servlet/StoreFront
twotoner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2009, 09:10 PM   #10
Magnum PEI
Lifetime Suspension
 
Magnum PEI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Exp:
Default

I was riding to school every day, but I almost killed myself on Monday afternoon. How much would a pair of snow tires cost me?
Magnum PEI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2009, 11:34 PM   #11
I-Hate-Hulse
Franchise Player
 
I-Hate-Hulse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum PEI View Post
I was riding to school every day, but I almost killed myself on Monday afternoon. How much would a pair of snow tires cost me?
MEC lists them at $65 to $99 each, depending on size.

http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_l...=1259994702011
I-Hate-Hulse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2009, 01:26 PM   #12
algernon
Lifetime Suspension
 
algernon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Removed by Mod
Exp:
Default


Bike Plow Guy
If this guy would come around my hood, I'd be riding my bike to work too.
Props to you crazy mof's who ride year-round.
algernon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:59 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy