False Rape Accusations

[JFK]

Don't know if anyone else just caught Judge Judy...

It was found that the woman on the show had not only falsely accused one but two ex-husbands of rape, and in the case of husband #1, child molestation on top of that. She was obviously playing the sexual abuse card to try and gain full custody of the children (husband #1 hasn't seen his daughter in years).

When the rape allegations were made against husband #2, he was put in jail for 7 days, lost his job as a firefighter, and spent upwards of $30,000 in legal fees.

After all was said and done, Judge Judy decided in husband #2's favor, awarding him $3,000....

I was absolutely floored with this result. This man's life has taken a huge hit over a lie that his ex-wife completely fabricated, and he's awarded a measly $3,000? Wtf?!?!

This leads to my question, what sort of charges does a woman face in Canada after it is determined that she has falsely accused a man of rape/child molestion?

This is the kind of thing that could easily ruin a guy's life, and I don't like the idea of a woman getting off easy when she gets caught in a lie...

[daaznfob]

Usually in shows like Judge Judy only the maximum of $5000 can be awarded

[Calgaryborn]

In Canada I know of at least three instances where a guy's wife accused him of abusing herself or the kids in order to assure she got initial custody of the children. This becomes important later because a Judge isn't very likely to pull the kids out of their home later in favour of their father unless there is a good reason why the mother isn't fit.

Part of the problem is that usually Social Services handles the investigation. The police only get involved when some solid evidence comes to light. They(Social Services) take as long as they like and in the end their conclusions are often murky. It is a lot safer for them to say they don't have enough evidence at this time than to say the guy was falsely accused. Social workers are usually women and almost always far left in ideology. It is a lot easier for them to empathize with the supposed victim than the man.

Having said all that I'm not sure there is a simple solution. You have to take the "victim" at their word initially and protect them. Also, if a women thinks she might face criminal charges if her case isn't proven she might remain silent out of fear. When it's a case of "he said-she said" you will often never know for certain the truth.

[Temporary_User]

I don't watch the show, but I would assume that Judge judy is made up.

[Lucifer]

I don't really consider the cases in Judge Judy, or any of those judge shows, to be real. They claim they are, but I have my doubts.

[Resolute 14]

The tragedy of such cases is that the legal system completely breaks down, and makes no apologies for it. The system goes to a guilty until proven innocent stance, where circumstantial and even fabricated evidence is more than enough to prevent justice from being done.

It's understandable in some respects, but frankly, people like the woman in the OP's story need to be thrown in jail and left to rot forever.

[wooohooo]

Just wondering, but why would the case be decided on Judge Judy? This dispute should be more of superior court matter isn't it? Like the poster said above, I think it's a max of $5000... not sure why you would deal with such large sums in this court.

[CaptainCrunch]

What kind of an idiot would go to judge judy with a false rape accusation. Thats just all kinds of stupid right there.

[Peanut]

Is Judge Judy like a small claims court or something? I agree... seems like the wrong place to be going after your wife for false rape charges and damages upwards of $30,000.

[jar_e]

In Canada, Judge Judy would be like a civil court judge...criminal obviously would be a different story, considering the burden of proof required.

[PIMking]

Here in the states I think its common thought that the women will get everything in a divorce. The fiances dad is going thru a nasty divorce with his wife her step mom who he put thru college and built a nice house provided everything for this women who is a controlling bitch. They have no kids together and he moved half way across the country and is still paying all her bills+ house payment (3k/mo) all while they are going thru divorce. He is doing this because hes the type of guy that belives the best in people while her lawyer is trying to get the pre-nup thrown out so she can get the house + allomony and everything she can get her hands on. He got over 40k in bonuses from another university that he worked for that he didn't know he got until the letter showed up at his house here and when he checked the joint account that they had she spent it all.

He wants to give her the house and just get his stuff out of it and be done with it while she will probably get everything she wants because she is the women.

there was also a case were a guy and gal got divorced and had two kids and she got everything plus child support and come to find out that he wasn't even the father of the two kids because she was cheating on him and the courts still made him pay for the child support.

Men get the short hand of the stick. I love my fiance to death and hope things would never turn out this way but I am always looking out for ole numbro uno.

[NBC]

Originally Posted by JFK

This leads to my question, what sort of charges does a woman face in Canada after it is determined that she has falsely accused a man of rape/child molestion?

Whatever the charges, they most likely aren't strong enough. Here's a story from this side of the Atlantic, reflecting what you are saying. This guy thought it easier to change his name and move. If you are accused of rape falsely, it is difficult to overcome the handle of 'accused or alleged rapist' regardless if guilt or innocence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8338554.stm

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by NBC

Whatever the charges, they most likely aren't strong enough. Here's a story from this side of the Atlantic, reflecting what you are saying. This guy thought it easier to change his name and move. If you are accused of rape falsely, it is difficult to overcome the handle of 'accused or alleged rapist' regardless if guilt or innocence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8338554.stm

Interesting story but if I was trying to restart my life with a new name and in a new country, the last thing I'd do is give an interview in the papers.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Here in the states I think its common thought that the women will get everything in a divorce. The fiances dad is going thru a nasty divorce with his wife her step mom who he put thru college and built a nice house provided everything for this women who is a controlling bitch. They have no kids together and he moved half way across the country and is still paying all her bills+ house payment (3k/mo) all while they are going thru divorce. He is doing this because hes the type of guy that belives the best in people while her lawyer is trying to get the pre-nup thrown out so she can get the house + allomony and everything she can get her hands on. He got over 40k in bonuses from another university that he worked for that he didn't know he got until the letter showed up at his house here and when he checked the joint account that they had she spent it all.

He wants to give her the house and just get his stuff out of it and be done with it while she will probably get everything she wants because she is the women.

there was also a case were a guy and gal got divorced and had two kids and she got everything plus child support and come to find out that he wasn't even the father of the two kids because she was cheating on him and the courts still made him pay for the child support.

Men get the short hand of the stick. I love my fiance to death and hope things would never turn out this way but I am always looking out for ole numbro uno.

Those are two absolutely horrible stories.

Its why I am never getting married or having children.

[ericschand]

I believe in shows like Judge Judy, each side has to sign a document binding them
to the verdict given.

They get something like $1,000 each for appearing on the show, then there is an
additional $5,000 pot. The winner takes from the pot.

In JFK's example, the winner got $3,000 + $1,000 for showing up, total $4,000.

The loser got $1,000 for showing up, signing the papers, etc.

As for why he would do that? Well, he's out $30,000 already on lawyers, you think
he wants to pay more to more lawyers? He took his chance on a national and
well watched TV show to clear his name, now when someone says he raped her,
he beat her, and whatever else, he can pull out the recording and say, "Here,
watch for yourself." He probably got to humiliate her a bit too.

ers