Charles Manson follower Susan Atkins dies

[transplant99]

Still one of the more heinous crimes...especially considering it was mostly females.

One down...4 more of them to go.

One night in August 1969, Manson dispatched Atkins and others to a wealthy residential section of Los Angeles, telling them, as they recalled, to "do something witchy."

They went to the home of Tate and her husband. He was not home, but Tate, who was 8 1/2 months pregnant, and four others were killed. "Pigs" was scrawled on a door in blood.

The next night, a wealthy grocer and his wife were found stabbed to death in their home across town. "Helter Skelter" was written in blood on the refrigerator.


"I was stoned, man, stoned on acid," Atkins testified during the trial's penalty phase.

"I don't know how many times I stabbed (Tate) and I don't know why I stabbed her," she said. "She kept begging and pleading and begging and pleading and I got sick of listening to it, so I stabbed her."
She said she felt "no guilt for what I've done. It was right then and I still believe it was right." Asked how it could be right to kill, she replied in a dreamy voice, "How can it not be right when it's done with love?"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090925/...anson_follower

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

I knew there was a reason the world felt like a slightly less evil place today.

[habernac]

I hope it was painful.

[bigtmac19]

Good riddance

[The Yen Man]

Hmm, I guess this is kharma at work here. Brain cancer sounds like a real painful way to go.

[transplant99]

Yeah...this is one of those cases where the death penalty certainly would of been the correct call. It is and was, clear as a bell that they were guilty. No need for them to have stayed alive beyond the usual rhetoric. certainly no one can claim that it wouldnt have saved the state of California a whole lot of money in the end as well.

[CaptainCrunch]

She died in prison where she belonged, its just a couple of decades too late.

I have no sympathy for this . . . thing and was strongly oppossed to any kind of compassionate time off from prison due to her illness.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by habernac

I hope it was painful.

read her wiki page, appears that she suffered pretty good..amputation, paralysis etc..

[The Yen Man]

No, I have no sympathy either. I just think that in hindsight, letting her live behind bars and her dying of brain cancer was probably an even harsher outcome than if she would have been put to death right away. Justly deserved, might I add.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

No, I have no sympathy either. I just think that in hindsight, letting her live behind bars and her dying of brain cancer was probably an even harsher outcome than if she would have been put to death right away. Justly deserved, might I add.

Tell that to the victim of her "act of love" who died begging and screaming.

To me the outcome wasn't harsh enough.

I was hoping that there would at least be a slightly positive outcome in terms of organ donations, but I don't think they take organs from cancer fatalities.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

So does this mean I can start eating carbs again?

I too could care less that this piece of crap is gone from the face of the earth.

But what surprises me is that nobody has said anything like "forgive and forget" or "thou shall not kill" I thought this was going to turn into a debate...

[Russic]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Tell that to the victim of her "act of love" who died begging and screaming.

To me the outcome wasn't harsh enough.

I was hoping that there would at least be a slightly positive outcome in terms of organ donations, but I don't think they take organs from cancer fatalities.

Personally if somebody killed my wife and I could choose between them dying via needle to the arm or slowly due to cancer whilst living in a concrete box for 30 years I may be tempted to go the cancer route.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

I too could care less that this piece of crap is gone from the face of the earth.

But what surprises me is that nobody has said anything like "forgive and forget" or "thou shall not kill" I thought this was going to turn into a debate...

Maybe I'm a petty person, but I've always believed "eye for an eye" more than "forgive and forget". If I were the victim's families, I would only be upset they didn't amputate more of her before she went.

[CaptainCrunch]

Someone asked me earlier in another thread, why I believe in god, sometimes I believe in god because of moments like this.

But then again I don't believe in the fluffy god from the New Testiment, I believe in the old fire and brimstone punish the wicked god from the old book.

Susan Atkins received justice its as simple as that, whether it was a combination of human and god's justice (as a concept) doesn't much matter. She paid a heavy price.

[Russic]

So people who die from brain cancer that aren't homicidal maniacs ... what did they do to deserve it? I'm not sure this is justice sent down from the heavens as much as it was just a woman who got cancer much like millions of others.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Russic

So people who die from brain cancer that aren't homicidal maniacs ... what did they do to deserve it? I'm not sure this is justice sent down from the heavens as much as it was just a woman who got cancer much like millions of others.

Nope, but in this case, I hope its some kind of sign of universal carmic revulsion by the universe trying to erase the mistake of this woman ever taking a breath.

[Huntingwhale]

Good thing this horrible incident took place in the States. If they had murdered those people up here in Canada they all would have probably been parolled by now...

[Mightyfire89]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Good thing this horrible incident took place in the States. If they had murdered those people up here in Canada they all would have probably been parolled by now...

Like this guy?

http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/...102/story.html

[CaptainCrunch]

Ford never offered an explanation for why he murdered his parents. But during his successful parole hearing in Victoria last May, he said: "Would I ever kill someone again?That's not going to happen."

Good enough for me



The guys totally believable



I'll help him find the killer