07-28-2009, 01:12 PM
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Hero fired for being a hero
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It cost him his job at a Round Rock Randalls, but Troy Schafer, who was fired last week after chasing a purse snatcher out of the grocery store, said he didn't have much choice.
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A U.S. Army veteran who said he spent some time in South Korea in the 1990s, Schafer, 36, took up the chase with help from a customer, he said.
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The customer called police as Schafer collected Welch's purse, which had already been gone through and dropped in the field near some trees. Then Schafer chased the suspect for about another quarter-mile before police caught up and arrested the 15-year-old.
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"We got (Welch) her purse back, all of her money, everything," Schafer said. "Then, the next day, my loss prevention unit from Randalls came in and said I was suspended without pay."
A few days later, Schafer said, he was fired.
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"In a split-second decision, when someone is screaming for help, what do you do?" he asked. "I did what I thought was right. I still feel like I did the right thing. I couldn't look at myself in the mirror the next day if I didn't help that lady."
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http://www.statesman.com/news/conten...8randalls.html
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07-28-2009, 01:13 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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No good deed goes unpunished.
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07-28-2009, 01:15 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lethbridge
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I guess we are all supposed to stand around like dummies and allow criminals to rip us off while we wait hours for "help".
Backwards.....
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07-28-2009, 01:17 PM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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It was just on CNN.
Yup from now on if you're working, just stand around.
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07-28-2009, 01:20 PM
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Hopefully the community shames this company in to hiring Shafer back.
Give that guy a medal or some award for his cat of bravery.
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07-28-2009, 01:20 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Seems like the one who fired him may be getting fired soon with all this publicity this may bring...
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07-28-2009, 01:22 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Seriously? They couldn't just give the guy a warning?
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07-28-2009, 01:22 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Moscow, ID
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Can't believe he has fired for that, Randalls "Loss prevention unit" needed to use better discretion. And seriously, doesn't a term like "loss prevention unit" make you want to die just a little?
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07-28-2009, 01:24 PM
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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I can see the store's point to a certain extent. He is hired to be a loss prevention person for the store. During the time when he was off running after the kid the store was vulnerable.
It's not like he chased the kid a block; it was a 1/4 mile.
Edit- not saying they should have fired the guy- but he could have been given a warning.
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07-28-2009, 01:26 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
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I used to work for Safeway and chased a shoplifter around the parking lot and the dude dropped the bag of crap that he loaded up. I got in crap from the bosses when I got back in the store. You are told not to chase shoplifters. I know this guy chased a purse snatcher, but it's kinda the same thing. Company guidelines suck ass.
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07-28-2009, 01:28 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: CP House of Ill Repute
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Originally Posted by ken0042
It's not like he chased the kid a block; it was a 1/4 mile.
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How far is a block normally?
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07-28-2009, 01:29 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Something similar happened in Toronto back in 2005. It was around Christmas and a teenage girl was fatally shot in Eaton Centre (an innocent bystander). The security guard from HMV (if I recall correctly) ran to her and tried to save her life. He was apparently fired later for leaving his post at the store.
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07-28-2009, 01:34 PM
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp
How far is a block normally?
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I know in the NE that 16th ave, 32nd ave, McKnight (48th ave), and 64th ave are all a mile apart. So this guy would have chased him 4 blocks.
My point was not the exact measure of the distance, but that it wasn't just past the doors or anything.
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07-28-2009, 01:34 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Thank trial lawyers and lawsuits in the US for this. There is a reason large US companies have these company policies.
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07-28-2009, 01:49 PM
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Has Towel, Will Travel
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
It was just on CNN.
Yup from now on if you're working, just stand around.
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City road maintenance workers have been doing that for decades.
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07-28-2009, 01:54 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
Thank trial lawyers and lawsuits in the US for this. There is a reason large US companies have these company policies.
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The Law Society must be behind it.
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07-28-2009, 01:57 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
Thank trial lawyers and lawsuits in the US for this. There is a reason large US companies have these company policies.
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Ya, it's clearly the lawyers who are instigating these policies. It could have nothing to do with businesses requiring their individual employees to prioritize the business's profit motive over that individual's ethical obligations to citizens.
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07-28-2009, 01:58 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
Thank trial lawyers and lawsuits in the US for this. There is a reason large US companies have these company policies.
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How so? Please, enlighten me.
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07-28-2009, 01:59 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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When I worked at Canadian Tire I would help out the "loss prevention officers" and there was three or four occasions when we chased down the shoplifters a few blocks away from the store.
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07-28-2009, 02:01 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by troutman
The Law Society must be behind it.
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I heard they are creating a statute right now that outlaws any hero type activity. Maybe we can spread some common law to fight it.
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