F-ing Drunk Drivers! They need to be charged with murder. - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Bertuzzied · 07-23-2009, 02:26 PM

My friend's cousin was killed last nite after some f-ing drunk driver ran a red light and smashed into him on sarcee and Richmond Road. He leaves behind his wife and 3 little kids.

Punishment for drinking and driving is such a joke right now. We should have zero tolerance for DUI's. You drink and drive. You lose your license forever.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Fa...873/story.html

jolinar of malkshor · 07-23-2009, 02:27 PM

Sorry to hear. Seems to have been a bad weekend for Drunk Drivers killing people. Some drunk driver up here by leduc ran into a car with his welding truck killing 3 people.

FlamingLonghorn · 07-23-2009, 02:28 PM

Are they not charged for murder if they kill someone? They are charged for manslaughter in the states.

Top Shelf · 07-23-2009, 02:28 PM

Heard about this one the radio this morning, I had a feeling as soon as they said it was a minivan that some kids just lost there dad. Very sad stuff

malcolmk14 · 07-23-2009, 02:30 PM

Bad week for vehicle-related deaths.

Bobblehead · 07-23-2009, 02:32 PM

Interestingly, on the way home from baseball last night I went through a checkstop on 6th Ave just on the way out of downtown. I have never come across one mid-week like that. Just in the wrong place, I guess.

red sky · 07-23-2009, 02:33 PM

This was a hit and run correct? I had heard they caught him later. Brutal, just f-ing brutal.

ken0042 · 07-23-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by red sky

This was a hit and run correct? I had heard they caught him later. Brutal, just f-ing brutal.

The dumbest kind of hit and run- he left his vehicle there and fled on foot. Like they weren't going to be able to track him down.

Maybe he was thinking of trying to beat the impaired charge, but once you see somebody bleeding I would hope that the person would try to help instead of self-preservation.

Bertuzzied · 07-23-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by red sky

This was a hit and run correct? I had heard they caught him later. Brutal, just f-ing brutal.

Yeah the d-bag ditched the truck and took off.

fredr123 · 07-23-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

My friend's cousin was killed last nite after some f-ing drunk driver ran a red light and smashed into him on sarcee and Richmond Road. He leaves behind his wife and 3 little kids.

Punishment for drinking and driving is such a joke right now. We should have zero tolerance for DUI's. You drink and drive. You lose your license forever.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Fa...873/story.html

Sorry to hear about your friend's cousin.

I'm not usually one to advocate for a conservative "Let's get tough on crime" approach to justice but I have a hard time arguing against this. I suspect impaired driving trials would increase in number dramatically and a lot of charter challenges would ensue.

Perhaps on your first conviction, provided its a simple impaired conviction with no injuries and no accident you get a long suspension. Any subsequent convictions or any injuries/accident/death related to your first conviction and it's bye bye driving privileges.

worth · 07-23-2009, 02:40 PM

Sometimes I wish there was zero tolerance for alcohol and driving, then i'd have an excuse not to drink while driving. If I drink a club soda while at a bar, people look at me funny and ask why i'm not having a beer. Then it goes into the discussion of how I know multiple people who have had DUI's and have seen first hand how it affects their lives, and it actually affected my life as well since I was driving them around a lot. And I don't want to end up like that, yadda yadda.

FanIn80 · 07-23-2009, 02:45 PM

In this day and age, drinking and driving should carry a "one and done" consequence.

You get caught doing it once, and you're on foot for the rest of your life. There is no excuse for anyone to ever think it's ok.

Bertuzzied · 07-23-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

In this day and age, drinking and driving should carry a "one and done" consequence.

You get caught doing it once, and you're on foot for the rest of your life. There is no excuse for anyone to ever think it's ok.

Yup. It's not the 1950's anymore. Anyone with half a brain should know not to drink and drive, and if you don't then you shouldn't be driving anyways.

mykalberta · 07-23-2009, 02:51 PM

+1 to drunk drivers should be charged with Murder. They are all despicable and are completely worthless human beings.

Resolute 14 · 07-23-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sowa

Are they not charged for murder if they kill someone? They are charged for manslaughter in the states.

"Impaired driving causing death" Basically, a couple months in jail and a stern lecture.

You have to be a cement truck driver and kill an entire family of five before Canadian "justice" will contemplate manslaughter.

tvp2003 · 07-23-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mykalberta

+1 to drunk drivers should be charged with attempted Murder. They are all despicable and are completely worthless human beings.

Fixed. If you drive drunk and actually kill someone, that is murder (or at least manslaughter) IMO.

While I understand that going to jail and/or losing the right to drive because you made a stupid decision when you were 18 seems a little harsh, but try explaining that to a little kid who just lost his daddy.

My condolences to the OP and the families involved.

valo403 · 07-23-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

In this day and age, drinking and driving should carry a "one and done" consequence.

You get caught doing it once, and you're on foot for the rest of your life. There is no excuse for anyone to ever think it's ok.

While I agree, I'm not sure it would do much. People who care so little for the law and the safety of others that they'd continue to drink and drive after being caught previously would likely drive without a license. It's very difficult to prevent actions by people who apparently don't care about any consequences.

Bertuzzied · 07-23-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

"Impaired driving causing death" Basically, a couple months in jail and a stern lecture.

You have to be a cement truck driver and kill an entire family of five before Canadian "justice" will contemplate manslaughter.

That is beyond ridiculous.

Ford Prefect · 07-23-2009, 03:01 PM

It's time for zero tolerance. Past time in fact. There is not tenable reason to allow any kind of drinking and driving.

troutman · 07-23-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

"Impaired driving causing death" Basically, a couple months in jail and a stern lecture.

You have to be a cement truck driver and kill an entire family of five before Canadian "justice" will contemplate manslaughter.

I agree the penalties are not strict enough, but I would like to see what the average punishment for this is in Canada. I suspect it is more than a couple of months in jail.

In Europe the penalties are harsh, and very few people drink and drive. They also have much better public transit.