Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003? - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Fueled By Fire · 02-07-2009, 09:11 AM

According to four independent sources, A-Rod tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1

I can't say I'm shocked to hear this, but I've never heard his name come up in any discussions.

IgiTang · 02-07-2009, 10:44 AM

^^ Not a big suprise however this means absolutely nothing. In that I mean, Rodriquez walks away scott free with his milions upon millions of $$$. I should have juiced up and joined baseball... This is the message it sends.

metallicat · 02-07-2009, 10:52 AM

According to an article I just read, results were supposed to be kept anonymous as part of a testing phase to determine if mandatory steroid testing should be brought in. The testings had the unions backing.

Dan02 · 02-07-2009, 12:13 PM

Is anyone legitimately suprised? Baseball was so dirty then that you could tell me anyone did it and i wouldn't be, yet alone the top end players with the most pressure to perform.

Further more i don't care, baseball didn't have rules against it back then.

ShaolinFlame · 02-07-2009, 05:33 PM

Boooooo A-Roid!

Displaced Flames fan · 02-07-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oilers_fan

According to an article I just read, results were supposed to be kept anonymous as part of a testing phase to determine if mandatory steroid testing should be brought in. The testings had the unions backing.

Yep, and someone should lose their job and A-Rod should sue the leak for everything he can...because he will lose in this.

I'm not making excuses, but when you submit to testing to help the league determine future policy on the assurance that said testing will never be made public then I think you have been screwed big time.

Papi34 · 02-07-2009, 07:34 PM

Wait till that first game in Fenway

Ill be there look for the sign with A-ROID

actually there will probably be many you guys should help me think of an awesome one haha

edn88 · 02-07-2009, 07:46 PM

Seriously though, what MLB player would you be surprised to hear did steroids. Or pro athlete for that matter (and I put hockey players in that list as well).

Chewy · 02-07-2009, 10:20 PM

A Rod is unlucky. The lab that had his results was subjected to a search warrant regarding BALCO but they found his results too. Sucks for MLB, all the best players are using steriods. If the best players use them, then everyone must use them too.

As for hockey as least the top players played in the Olympics and not even one tested positive since 98 I believe.

killer_carlson · 02-07-2009, 11:09 PM

I wholeheartedly agree with Dis.

This is a huge violation of privacy laws (or at least it would be up here). This is one that should be a huge, huge lawsuit. Gigantic. Like sue MLB for well into 9 figures.

Hell, this should be a class action by any player who submitted to "anonymous" testing. Screw that. Stuff like this gets my goat.

Dan02 · 02-07-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by killer_carlson

This is a huge violation of privacy laws (or at least it would be up here). This is one that should be a huge, huge lawsuit. Gigantic. Like sue MLB for well into 9 figures.

From the sounds of it neither MLB or the lab that conducted the tests had anything to do with this leaking out.

You Need a Thneed · 02-08-2009, 01:14 AM

At this point, Baseball needs to take full responsibility for turning their blind eye to players taking steroids in that era. Leaving an entire generations players out of the Hall of Fame and shunning them will do much greater harm to their game.

US Congress should be going after MLB, not the individual players, IMO.

There were no rules against using drugs, therefore the players played within the rules, PERIOD. No asteriks should be put on players stats.

RougeUnderoos · 02-08-2009, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by killer_carlson

This is a huge violation of privacy laws (or at least it would be up here). This is one that should be a huge, huge lawsuit. Gigantic. Like sue MLB for well into 9 figures.

He's got enough money and if he pursued some sort of legal action his reputation will take a beating. His bank account along with it, even if he were to win a lawsuit.

He'll be happy to see this disappear ASAP.

These guys are starting to make Pete Rose look like Gordie Howe.

killer_carlson · 02-08-2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan02

From the sounds of it neither MLB or the lab that conducted the tests had anything to do with this leaking out.

then how did it get released if no one talked? Someone talked to someone who leaked it.

Just wait for the "ends justify the means" people to start coming out of the woodwork here.

Dan02 · 02-08-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by killer_carlson

then how did it get released if no one talked? Someone talked to someone who leaked it.

Just wait for the "ends justify the means" people to start coming out of the woodwork here.

Did you even read the article???

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The results of that year's survey testing of 1,198 players were meant to be anonymous under the agreement between the commissioner's office and the players association. Rodriguez's testing information was found, however, after federal agents, armed with search warrants, seized the '03 test results from Comprehensive Drug Testing, Inc., of Long Beach, Calif., one of two labs used by MLB in connection with that year's survey testing. The seizure took place in April 2004 as part of the government's investigation into 10 major league players linked to the BALCO scandal -- though Rodriguez himself has never been connected to BALCO.

The list of the 104 players whose urine samples tested positive is under seal in California. However, two sources familiar with the evidence that the government has gathered in its investigation of steroid use in baseball and two other sources with knowledge of the testing results have told Sports Illustrated that Rodriguez is one of the 104 players identified as having tested positive, in his case for testosterone and an anabolic steroid known by the brand name Primobolan. All four sources spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the evidence.

CaptainCrunch · 02-08-2009, 11:42 AM

I think that MLB should encourage the use of steroids. I mean most fans that go to a game don't go to see routine fly balls, singles of the middle and pitchouts. They want to see the home runs, so we should actually give them incentives if they shoot up, juice up, rub creams into themselves. There should be at least 10 home runs an inning.

Forget about this sneaking around, MLB should promote itself as the chemical league.

In fact they could recruit identical twins, shoot them up with all the drugs out there and call them the chemical twins, think of the endorsements.

Displaced Flames fan · 02-08-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan02

Did you even read the article???

And all that says is that MLB did not take the proper precautions to ensure that they could keep their promise that the testing would be anonymous.

rubecube · 02-08-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

And all that says is that MLB did not take the proper precautions to ensure that they could keep their promise that the testing would be anonymous.

There's actually a more in-depth article on ESPN that I'll try to find for you. It basically says the the PA screwed this one up. The PA had the opportunity to have these samples and records destroyed after 2003 but inexplicably did not. The records have since been seized by federal agents and are going to be opened up to the public and used as evidence in the Bonds and Clemens trials.

socalwingfan · 02-08-2009, 12:32 PM

Little OT but I've asked this question on other websites - why does baseball get crucified when a player tests positive, but NFL players are given a 5 game suspension and maybe mentioned in the bottom of an ESPN scroll? Yesterday you couldn't turn the channel without seeing a discussion on A-Rod, but Shawn Merrimen gets busted, sits out a few games and comes back like nothing ever happened. I turned from the MLB network where everyone was killing A-rod to the NFL network where some offensive lineman is benching 225 pounds (i'm guessing never saw the actual weight displayed) 40 times to win a strength contest.

killer_carlson · 02-08-2009, 12:42 PM

If it were truely supposed to be annonymous, there should have been zero way to track:

1) Who was tested; and
2) What the results of that person's test was.

This was clearly a screw up big time and the question you have to ask is:

In an annonymous test, why would you keep a mechanism that would allow you to track who tested and for what?

Someone had to have an agenda here and it's an ugly one.