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Old 11-04-2011, 10:42 AM   #1
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Default Winter Bike Tire/Gear Recommendations

I swear I thought there was a bike gear thread somewhere on CP, but I can't find it.

I've never biked in winter before, but now that we've moved more "inner city" I'm pretty determined to make it my main commuting option, except on days where I'm lazy or a weak baby that's scared of the cold... hopefully that doesn't happen to often.

Anyways I've got really worn tires on my current mountain bike and I'm taking it in to Cycle path today and they recommended Schwalbe Winter Marathon Tires like this:

http://www.schwalbetires.com/node/1788

Does anyone have other recommendations?

What do you winter commuters use for gloves? I had these lobster style gloves from MEC recommended:

http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Cycling/MensClothing/Gloves/PRD~5020-733/mec-coldspell-gloves-unisex.jsp

I'm pretty ignorant towards winter equipment and riding in general, so any help's appreciated.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:57 AM   #2
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I recommend 5th gear
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:24 PM   #3
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I run those tires and have those gloves... ha.

Those tires are perfect for commuting. I like them better than the Schalbe snow studs because of the extra studs on the side for when you drop into an icy rut, they will save you.

Those gloves are ok. My hands still froze last year on the really cold days.

I bought these this year to use on the really cold/windy days, but haven't tried them yet:

http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Cyclin...ies-unisex.jsp
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You might also want to consider buying the following:

Lights
Booties
Something to keep your face/ears warm
Breathe able underwear.....
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Old 11-04-2011, 03:54 PM   #5
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Oh yeah, all mountain helmets are great for commuting. Removable ear flaps and blockable vents so it's comfortable in all weather.
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:41 PM   #6
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I run those tires and have those gloves... ha.

Those tires are perfect for commuting. I like them better than the Schalbe snow studs because of the extra studs on the side for when you drop into an icy rut, they will save you.

Those gloves are ok. My hands still froze last year on the really cold days.

I bought these this year to use on the really cold/windy days, but haven't tried them yet:

http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Cyclin...ies-unisex.jsp
Are those tires $85 each? Hmmm...

How safe is it to winter ride? I've always wanted to, but:

1. I'm a little bit nervous about it
2. Seems pricey to get set-up
3. Seems pricey to get dressed-up.

Also I'm always late, so taking the bike isn't a great option.
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:23 PM   #7
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I'll bump my post from last year. Sadly work has me "temporarily" stationed out in the deep SE so I'm not biking this year - after today's clusterfata of a commute I'm really missing the ride in in 15 min....


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Woot for riding to work! You're immune to situations where traffic gets paralyzed , including buses. My commute is the same 15 minutes it always is. I ride in everyday to work downtown, -40 or not. Riding at an easy pace, I'm able to get away without the need to shower or anything, and can also wear less gear.

I'm going to list all my gear - you don't need to get it all at once. Just build on what you have already and tweak things here and there as you need to.

Cold Weather Gear

- Gloves - get a few pairs for differing weather. I have a pair of Descente Coldfront for 5 to -10 degree temps. I also have a pair or regular old Windstopper Fleece gloves that work well from -5 to -20 temps. When it it's -20 I'll break out the lobster claw gloves with an glove liner (pair of thin jogging gloves works for me) to really ward off the cold. Hands get cold really fast so it's worth it to put a few bucks into this.

Headwear - when it gets to -15 or so and the wind freezes your face, I go with a neo/fleece mask from Serius. MEC used to have these, but doesnt look like it anymore. These velcro up in the back so it's easy to put on. I also use a pair of 180's earmuffs to keep the ears from freezing in all temp ranges. Again, when it's -20 or below I'll use a thin microfiber running tuque below the helmet to keep warm.

Eyewear - I have a pair of Oakley Flak Jackets in clear / amber / dark lenses. Huge difference in that they don't fog up like my old Smiths did. Well worth the upgrade IMHO.

Jacket - whatever you've got. I personally use a puffy down North Face jacket, but will toss a North Face Shell over it when it hits -25.

Pants - I wear dress pants and a shirt so I don't have to change at work so some protection against cold and splashing is a must. I use a pair of Patagonia Alpine Pants which have been awesome. A dork strap to make sure your pant cuff doesn't get ripped up in your chain ring is critical.

Bike Equipment

- Wet lube - chains rust like a mofo in salty slush. Slather this stuff on weekly.
- Fenders - I put these on so I never have to worry about spray and rooster tail. Some like the simple deflector shield thing in the front, but I want maximum coverage so I go for the full coverage Planet Bike ATB fenders.
- Tires - Believe it or not, I still ride with my freaking semislick IRC Advantage Pro tires. I used to run knobbies but I found that the snow and ice packs into the tread and turns them to semi slicks anyways. I do drop the PSI a bit 5-10 psi though. Really though it's not your tires but your riding style that matters (see below).
- Lights - you'll need some riding in the dark. Front and back.
- Disc Brakes rule in the wet!


Riding Style / My Rules For Winter Riding

- Be prepared for a fall at any time.
My riding tends to be on the busier sections of the pathway and through streets and alleys downtown. Lots of turns and braking where I can bail. As such I drop my seat a good inch so I can be prepared to put a leg down on the ground to stop what feels like a skid. The ability to do this quickly is important when it gets icy. Unfortunately, dropping your seat comes at the expense of optimum riding position - but speed isn't the issue here.

- Hit objects perpedicular only.
Treat any curb, be it 0.5" or 4" tall, as something that will kill you if you fail to take it perpendicular. 90% of my falls in the winter comes from this. Basically a wet frozen curb meeting your wet frozen tire at a narrow angle will slide off like skates on ice. Tires like to go forwards, not sideways. If there's only one thing you learn, learn this rule! This is applicable for any object you may have to ride over, like snow humps or tracks left by cars.

- Brake before the turn
Just like driving. Reduce the amount of traction required of your tires in a turn. Slow down before you make a turn in case the apex of the turn is icy.

- Rear brake only when slippery.
Skidding with your rear tire is controllable, and sometimes even fun. Skidding with your front tire is death.

- Crud is your Enemy.
As a bike commuter, you will become like an Eskimo and have several words to describe snow. Fresh deep snow is actually quite easy to ride in. The worst snow is crud. After a deep snowfall and it warms slightly and cars mix in dirt. It takes on a sand like consistency which means when you turn your handlebars to steer nothing happens. Means for a bit of walking on my street sections. Crud will kill you.
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Old 11-05-2011, 04:59 PM   #8
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Are those tires $85 each? Hmmm...

How safe is it to winter ride? I've always wanted to, but:

1. I'm a little bit nervous about it
2. Seems pricey to get set-up
3. Seems pricey to get dressed-up.

Also I'm always late, so taking the bike isn't a great option.
Yeah, if you shop around there will be some better online options for those tires, and there are cheaper ones that would work just fine too.

1. Nervous: I was too. Those tires make you pretty invincible except for in "Crud" as per the above post. Nothing will help you there.

2. Pricey: Yup. I figured it was 3 months worth of bus passes for the clothes alone. By buying my winter gear last year (tires included) I rode an extra 7 months of the year compared to before. That's $600 saved last year which easily covered that cost. This year I'm laughing.

I'm also always late, which is why I started winter riding. My bus only comes every 20 minutes, so if I missed it, I was stuck waiting around. Now I leave whenever I'm ready.
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:54 AM   #9
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When ever I ride in winter, I ditch the clip less pedals, and ride on platforms. Just a personal choice, but it tends to save your ass sometimes if you are gonna bail, which you will.
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:28 AM   #10
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Are those tires $85 each? Hmmm...

How safe is it to winter ride? I've always wanted to, but:

1. I'm a little bit nervous about it
2. Seems pricey to get set-up
3. Seems pricey to get dressed-up.

Also I'm always late, so taking the bike isn't a great option.
It is safe if you have studs and stick to paths, bike routes and lower traffic roads.

Bike in rush hour usually beets a car or bus and times aren't as variable as driving.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:24 AM   #11
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Yeah, if you shop around there will be some better online options for those tires, and there are cheaper ones that would work just fine too.

1. Nervous: I was too. Those tires make you pretty invincible except for in "Crud" as per the above post. Nothing will help you there.

2. Pricey: Yup. I figured it was 3 months worth of bus passes for the clothes alone. By buying my winter gear last year (tires included) I rode an extra 7 months of the year compared to before. That's $600 saved last year which easily covered that cost. This year I'm laughing.

I'm also always late, which is why I started winter riding. My bus only comes every 20 minutes, so if I missed it, I was stuck waiting around. Now I leave whenever I'm ready.
1. Nervous, yeah, maybe that will get better - with those tires though, when do you put them on? Is it like winter tires in Calgary? You've got them and they're great, but most of the time you're driving on dry/hard pavement?

2. Clothes - yeah, that always sucks. If it saves you money and it's a bit of exercise it's win win. Even if you break even clothes/money saved it's still win win.

Late - that's the tough part for me. I have an indoor heated parking spot in my building downtown about 1 minute from my office. So when I'm running late, which I usually am, getting into bike clothes, packing bag, clothes, laptop if I brought home, finding office keys, bike lockup keys, sweating up a storm, showering at work, etc. doesn't seem like an appealing option. It's almost like I'm only going to get on my bike if I'm early and organized in which case I should probably just drive

Sounds ridiculous - but that's how my mornings play out.

Anyway, what I'd also like to be able to do is take the dog out in the winter on my bike still, so I should probably get those tires. That doesn't require being up early and organized. Any sites people would recommend?

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Old 11-11-2011, 05:44 PM   #12
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I just put my tires on today. Pretty much the same as car tires. You can have 2 sets of wheels for your bike and it literally takes 2 minutes to change wheels if its going to be clear for a few days.

I always leave my studs on though. Most of the winter there will still be ice patches here and there where it's shady, and they aren't bad at all on dry pavement.
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