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HOZ · 01-22-2009, 06:42 PM

Apiece by Lorrie Goldstein. Laughed out loud reading this one. Love the hidden agenda bit too.

Many of our "Progressives" seem to be blind to the fact that even Obama is to the right of Harper politically.

Long live Bush-lite may he rule the Earth benevolently!

Barack Obama was sworn in as the 44th president of the United States on Tuesday, an ideological neo-conservative irresponsibly poised to introduce broad-based, middle-class tax cuts, despite a huge and growing U.S. deficit and global recession.
Obama's fiscally reckless promises of $275 billion in tax cuts this year, and $2.9 trillion over the next decade, will condemn the U.S. to years of structural deficits, for which future generations will have to pay, say leading economists.

driveway · 01-22-2009, 08:48 PM

But Stephen Harper has date-rape face.

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 01-22-2009, 09:35 PM

I read the point of the article to be that the Canadian media is unfair to Stephen Harper, not that Harper is less conservative than Obama. While I think it's true that Obama is far less liberal than either the right or the left thinks he is in the U.S., calling him a "neo-con" is a little goofy, frankly--and some of the analogies in the piece are... well... let's be kind and say the author likes to compare oranges and battleships.

But in the end, it's the same "poor me" attitude you get from the right in the U.S. The media's not fair, everybody hates us, let's go eat worms. I'm not feeling overwhelmed with sympathy, frankly.

Five-hole · 01-22-2009, 10:44 PM

What's wrong with being very critical of your government? I think the US could have used a bit more of that kind of attitude in the last 20 years. And I certainly don't mean that misdirected kind of criticism applied to what did or didn't happen under the desk of the Oval Orifice.

flip · 01-22-2009, 11:32 PM

A seven year old could have written a more thoughtful piece. I love the comment at the bottom:

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I may as well have been buying a rag from the corner store or watching a lousy soap because the quality of political journalism, has reached intolerable levels of gossipy crap.

That's about how I feel.

llama64 · 01-22-2009, 11:48 PM

It's from the Toronto Sun. Further proof print media is failing hard if they can keep this type of writer employed.

Love the pointless debates about the political alignment of Obama. He's Left! He's Right! Now with more fisting power!

Seriously, the media coverage is worse then "Bennifer" or "Bradgelina" ever was. He's been President only a couple days and I'm already sick of hearing about his breakfast, or what type of Blackberry he likes to use.

HotHotHeat · 01-23-2009, 01:05 AM

That may be the most loaded article I've ever read. Ever. Wow.

Gozer · 01-23-2009, 01:42 PM

As long as its intended a parody piece directed at the media, I didn't find it as offensive as previous posters. These kind of ugly things are said about most neo-cons, its just usually ok because they deserve it.

If its intended as an evaluation of Barack's politics, its garbage.

HOZ · 01-24-2009, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I read the point of the article to be that the Canadian media is unfair to Stephen Harper, not that Harper is less conservative than Obama. While I think it's true that Obama is far less liberal than either the right or the left thinks he is in the U.S., calling him a "neo-con" is a little goofy, frankly--and some of the analogies in the piece are... well... let's be kind and say the author likes to compare oranges and battleships.

But in the end, it's the same "poor me" attitude you get from the right in the U.S. The media's not fair, everybody hates us, let's go eat worms. I'm not feeling overwhelmed with sympathy, frankly.

My goodness. Did you even read the first sentence?

Here's how Barack Obama's inauguration as U.S. president should have been reported by gushing Canadian media pundits, had they applied the same "standards" to him as they do to Prime Minister Stephen Harper:

That was pretty clear what the focus of this piece. A straight out parody of Canadian media pundits and their double standards towards our "conservative" Prime Minister.

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 01-24-2009, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HOZ

My goodness. Did you even read the first sentence?

Here's how Barack Obama's inauguration as U.S. president should have been reported by gushing Canadian media pundits, had they applied the same "standards" to him as they do to Prime Minister Stephen Harper:

That was pretty clear what the focus of this piece. A straight out parody of Canadian media pundits and their double standards towards our "conservative" Prime Minister.

I'm not even sure I should respon, other than to say "My goodness, did you even read my post?" But evidently you didn't and that's fine. What say we both agree to... agree. He is whining about how the media treats Harper. I'm just not all that sympathetic. If Harper wants better treatment from the media he chose the wrong career.

HOZ · 01-24-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I'm not even sure I should respon, other than to say "My goodness, did you even read my post?" But evidently you didn't and that's fine. What say we both agree to... agree. He is whining about how the media treats Harper. I'm just not all that sympathetic. If Harper wants better treatment from the media he chose the wrong career.

Well if parody=whining then John Steward does a lot of hilarious whining.

Agamemnon · 01-24-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HOZ

Well if parody=whining then John Steward does a lot of hilarious whining.

John Stewart is funny though... hilarious whining is entertaining. Just plain whining isn't.

PsYcNeT · 01-24-2009, 08:45 PM

If anything, Harper should realize from the whole Obama-rama going on in the States, is that being OPEN and FRIENDLY and NOT-SCARY AND MURDEROUS with the media/voters/opposing politicians usually gains you some positive cred.

bcb · 01-25-2009, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I'm not even sure I should respon, other than to say "My goodness, did you even read my post?" But evidently you didn't and that's fine. What say we both agree to... agree. He is whining about how the media treats Harper. I'm just not all that sympathetic. If Harper wants better treatment from the media he chose the wrong career.

Do you have a problem with the fact that our tax dollars may be funding media (CBC), whose journalistic standards may not be 100% unbiased?

I do.

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 01-25-2009, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bcb

Do you have a problem with the fact that our tax dollars may be funding media (CBC), whose journalistic standards may not be 100% unbiased?

I do.

So... if they kowtowed to the government constantly, you'd be happier? Please. CBC may not be perfect, but it's one of the better news organizations out there. Spend a year in the U.S. and then tell me you don't miss CBC.

Not to mention that this thread isn't about CBC anyway, but about the Canadian punditry at large. And apparently that's a group that Harper's hard done by.

CaptainCrunch · 01-25-2009, 10:03 AM

Why does it matter, the government is going to fall this week, and we're going to an election anyways.

peter12 · 01-25-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

So... if they kowtowed to the government constantly, you'd be happier? Please. CBC may not be perfect, but it's one of the better news organizations out there. Spend a year in the U.S. and then tell me you don't miss CBC.

Not to mention that this thread isn't about CBC anyway, but about the Canadian punditry at large. And apparently that's a group that Harper's hard done by.

Except that US print media is about 200 million times better than anything we have in Canada. You guys have The Atlantic and we have... The Walrus.

The quality of American journalism is at such an impossibly high standard, Canada cannot possibly compare.

Yeah_Baby · 01-25-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by peter12

Except that US print media is about 200 million times better than anything we have in Canada. You guys have The Atlantic and we have... The Walrus.

The quality of American journalism is at such an impossibly high standard, Canada cannot possibly compare.

bcb · 01-26-2009, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

So... if they kowtowed to the government constantly, you'd be happier? Please. CBC may not be perfect, but it's one of the better news organizations out there. Spend a year in the U.S. and then tell me you don't miss CBC.

Not to mention that this thread isn't about CBC anyway, but about the Canadian punditry at large. And apparently that's a group that Harper's hard done by.

I'd be happier if the CBC accurately relayed news, as opposed to mixing facts, opinion and emotion.

And yes, I wouldn't miss the CBC. With the loss of a lot of their sports programming, what's the network got going for it?

Oh, and don't get me started on CBC Radio 2!