WHL’s Trade Deadline

[Oxygen-Supply]

Are the Hitmen going to get a Goalie?

Are the Hitmen going to give up on this year and trade Andrew Ladd and (or) Ryan Getzlaf?

[flambers]

Should be an interesting trade deadline. Another question will Red Deer trade Dion Phaneuf? I believe the deadline is today at noon.

[Flickered Flame]

I'm assuming it will be a slower deadline day. There are just to many teams in the running to win it all. From what I can tell only moose jaw and speedy creek are not going to make it at this point. MJ is 10pts out and SC is 14pts out.

I do think Kisio will acquire Slade from Regina, and he be the tender the Hitmen will ride into the playoffs.

The other really big name that maybe available is Tyler Redenbach from the Broncos.

[flambers]

Not sure, I don't think it is ever really slow in the WHL trade deadline.

[Oxygen-Supply]

RED DEER, AB - The Red Deer Rebels Hockey Club announced today they have acquired 18-year old goaltender Andrew Leslie from the Swift Current Broncos in exchange for 17-year old goaltender Trevor Peeters and third round selection in the 2005 Western Hockey League Bantam Draft.

http://whl.ca/headlines/?id=2612

[Oxygen-Supply]

Calgary, AB - The Calgary Hitmen and the Calgary Flames announced today a
donation of $12,062 from 50/50 ticket sales at Calgary Hitmen home games
on December 30th and January 2nd has been donated to the Canadian Red
Cross to help aid those affected by the deadly tsunami in South East Asia.

http://whl.ca/headlines/?id=2614

[Jagger]

Originally posted by flambers@Jan 10 2005, 07:34 AM
Another question will Red Deer trade Dion Phaneuf?

HIGHLY unlikely imo. It would take something quite remarkable for Sutter to trade the best junior hockey player in the land. With the Rebels upgrading their goalie position today and, believe me it is an upgrade, they are not giving up on this year. They have the potential to make some noise in the playoffs.

edit: I had heard rumours that the Hitmen were interested in Swift's starter Kyle Moir, an excellent goalie btw. Wonder whether Swift trading their backup to RD changes anything?

[Bench Warmer]

Originally posted by Flickered Flame@Jan 10 2005, 03:17 PM
I do think Kisio will acquire Slade from Regina, and he be the tender the Hitmen will ride into the playoffs.

I think you're probably right there. Slade hasn't played for a month due to behavioural issues - Kisio can probably get him for a song. Slade's a great tender and could lead a team to a championship if his head is in the right place - that's a big if however...

[Flickered Flame]

The Vancouver Giants have traded 18-year-old forward MATT KASSIAN to the Kamloops Blazers in exchange for 19-year-old forward CAM CUNNING.
http://www.whl.ca/headlines/?id=2616

[Flickered Flame]

Medicine Hat, AB – Medicine Hat Tigers announce today they have made a deal with the Kamloops Blazers to acquire 20-year-old centerman and Blazers' captain JARRET LUKIN.

Going to the Blazers from the Tigers are 20-year-old forward Paul Gentile, 17-year-old forward Bryan Kauk and a third round draft pick in the 2005 bantam draft.

http://www.whl.ca/headlines/?id=2617

[Oxygen-Supply]

The Hitmen have made a trade, fan960 said after 2 they will tell us what it is. Big news trade. The have called a team meeting. thats why there is a dealy

[RedHot25]

Originally posted by mileflames@Jan 10 2005, 08:52 PM
The Hitmen have made a trade, fan960 said after 2 they will tell us what it is. Big news trade. The have called a team meeting. thats why there is a dealy

SOOOOOOOO.........what's the trade?! I'm on the west coast, and its 1:30 here, so that makes it 2:30 in Cowtown, which should have the trade announced....?

[KevanGuy]

The Calgary Hitmen have traded 18 year old defenceman Andy Rogers, 18 year old goaltender Scott Bowles and 20 year old forward Lee Zalaky to the Prince George Cougars for 18 year old goaltender Justin Pogge, 18 year old defenceman Dylan Yeo, 20 year old forward Tyrel Lucas and a 6th round pick in the 2005 WHL Bantam Draft.


http://www.whl.ca/headlines/?id=2625

[Jagger]

Originally posted by KevanGuy@Jan 10 2005, 02:25 PM
The Calgary Hitmen have traded 18 year old defenceman Andy Rogers, 18 year old goaltender Scott Bowles and 20 year old forward Lee Zalaky to the Prince George Cougars for 18 year old goaltender Justin Pogge, 18 year old defenceman Dylan Yeo, 20 year old forward Tyrel Lucas and a 6th round pick in the 2005 WHL Bantam Draft.

This one surprises me. On the face of it the Hitmen haven't upgraded their goaltending much. Kyle Moir or even taking a flyer on Dustin Slade might have been a better choice. (Slade is an absolute headcase however). When the Rebels traded for Swift's backup any Moir deal certainly looked like it wasn't going to happen. Slade probably wasn't worth the risk. Still, Pogge's stats don't exactly inspire confidence. After all, Bowles numbers are better. Of course, stats alone don't tell the whole story and perhaps Pogge is the help Calgary needs in goal.

The other parts of the deal are surprising to me too. Perhaps Snakeeye or other Hitmen fans can fill me in on why they think this particular deal was made.

[Oxygen-Supply]

The team got younger and they got a new goalie.

Scott Bowles was known for letting bad goals in. A new goalie may help the confidences of the team.

[Jagger]

Originally posted by mileflames@Jan 10 2005, 05:06 PM
The team got younger and they got a new goalie.

Scott Bowles was known for letting bad goals in. A new goalie may help the confidences of the team.

Perhaps it will help both goalies out as Prince George fans say that Pogge has confidence problems and has let in a number of weak goals too. He was, however, very good last season.

[Oxygen-Supply]

Tyrel Lucas 1984
Prince George Cougars 36 9 12 21 -2
Less games played same numbers, every one on the radio called it a even trade off

Lee Zalasky 1984
Calgary Hitmen 42 11 14 25 -2

Good Trade off

Andy Rogers 1986
2004-05 WHL Season Calgary Hitmen 18 1 4 5 -3 36

Dylan Yeo 1986
Prince George Cougars 34 2 3 5 -4 59
A player with heart and wants to play hard

We lose a bit here, but we gain Heart and a guy that is fun to watch

Scott Bowles
2003-2004 WHL Season Calgary Hitmen 20 4 12 1 1
2004-05 WHL Season Calgary Hitmen 32 15 12 4 4

Justin Pogge
2003-2004 WHL Season Prince George Cougars 44 17 18 2 3
2004-05 WHL Season Prince George Cougars 24 10 9 2 4
He has more games under his belt, but has been the backup of late.

We Gain more experiences

[Eddie Bronze]

I like the trade for Calgary more for who we got rid of then who we brought back, although I don't know alot about those guys so I certainly reserve judgment to this point. Most importantly though, Bowles is a sieve in net and Rogers didn't play up to expectations at all this year, imo, so I'm glad both are gone. Zalasky I liked, but hopefully the "replacement" will at least bring as much offense and we won't suffer in that department.

Sad to see the deadline come and go and Ladd is still on the team though. He has played with zero heart to this point in the season and based on all the expectations, he needs to gear it up a notch in the second half of the year if the Hitmen are to have much chance of significant improvement.

[Flickered Flame]

I like the deal for the Hitmen except for giving up Rogers. Pogge is an ok tender, and the main thing is that everyone within the organization knew they were not going anywhere with Bowles. However, the Hurricanes picked up Redenbach from speedy creek which gives them even more scoring.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally posted by No I.D.@Jan 11 2005, 01:26 AM
Rogers didn't play up to expectations at all this year, imo

He missed most of the year with an injury. And from listening to him on the radio it sounds like he had that same injury for the past two years. And he's only recently just come back from the injury.

I don't really think you can say he didn't play up to expectations when he's been injured the majority of the year. One has to question whether he's been at 100% for any part of it.

I do agree on Bowles though, not a fan. Hopefully Pogge is an upgrade.