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Old 08-12-2008, 10:57 AM   #1
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The fireworks footage was actually digitally inserted into television coverage of the event, and the cute nine-year-old girl was lip-synching to a song sung by another girl who was seven, said CTV's Steve Chao, reporting from Beijing.

"According to the Beijing Olympic organizing committee, because of the pollution and the smoggy haze it was decided they would use a digital image to enhance the image of the fireworks," Chao told Canada AM on Tuesday, adding that the safety of the helicopter pilot was also a concern.

In another sign of China's desire to create the perfect opening ceremonies, the event's music director Chen Qigang told Beijing Radio a last-minute decision was made to match the nine-year-old girl's face with another's voice.


I think they're talking about those 'foot prints' that made their way to the stadium.

Kinda sad considering they were playing the 'check this out, we invented gun powder'
card.

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Old 08-12-2008, 11:09 AM   #2
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I do not really see a big deal of this.
The media really needs to give China a break. It was a great show. No doubt. It was almost perfect. But then, what is wrong with lip-synching? Every one around the world does it. Everyone could see she was lip-synching. Don't tell me other countries don't use lip-synching in their shows. This is just show business. Who doesn't want their shows to be perfect?

As for the fireworks. I have no doubt it would have been spectular even without the digital enhancement. They were one of the most amazing fireworks display I have ever seen. The digital stuff is just to enhance the overall effect for the show. But afterall, this is a tv show boardcast. I really do not see what is wrong with it. You get to see a great show produced for billions of people world wide, where the entire world gets together. That is what the ceremony is about. The ceremony should not be about China being "fake". Were the thousands of people performing in the show in unity fake? Were all the amazing props made for the show fake? They all have practiced and practiced for a long time to put on a spectular show.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:12 AM   #3
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I do not really see a big deal of this.
The media really needs to give China a break. It was a great show. No doubt. It was almost perfect. But then, what is wrong with lip-synching? Every one around the world does it. Everyone could see she was lip-synching. Don't tell me other countries don't use lip-synching in their shows. This is just show business. Who doesn't want their shows to be perfect?

As for the fireworks. I have no doubt it would have been spectular even without the digital enhancement. They were one of the most amazing fireworks display I have ever seen. The digital stuff is just to enhance the overall effect for the show. But afterall, this is a tv show boardcast. I really do not see what is wrong with it. You get to see a great show produced for billions of people world wide, where the entire world gets together. That is what the ceremony is about. The ceremony should not be about China being "fake". Were the thousands of people performing in the show in unity fake? Were all the amazing props made for the show fake? They all have practiced and practiced for a long time to put on a spectular show.
I don't think the lipsynching itself was the problem. It was the fact that she was lipsyching someone else's singing and the only reason the singer wasn't allowed to be on stage was because she was 'too ugly'.
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How would you feel to be the kid, or the parents of the kid who was good enough to sing, but not pretty enough to be seen by the world doing so? Yeah. That's a real boost to the ego. She's seven. Most seven year olds are cute. But hey, you my friend, you're not cute enough...
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I don't think the lipsynching itself was the problem. It was the fact that she was lipsyching someone else's singing and the only reason the singer wasn't allowed to be on stage was because she was 'too ugly'.
Sounds fair enough to me.
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I do not really see a big deal of this.
The media really needs to give China a break. It was a great show. No doubt. It was almost perfect. But then, what is wrong with lip-synching? Every one around the world does it. Everyone could see she was lip-synching. Don't tell me other countries don't use lip-synching in their shows. This is just show business. Who doesn't want their shows to be perfect?

As for the fireworks. I have no doubt it would have been spectular even without the digital enhancement. They were one of the most amazing fireworks display I have ever seen. The digital stuff is just to enhance the overall effect for the show. But afterall, this is a tv show boardcast. I really do not see what is wrong with it. You get to see a great show produced for billions of people world wide, where the entire world gets together. That is what the ceremony is about. The ceremony should not be about China being "fake". Were the thousands of people performing in the show in unity fake? Were all the amazing props made for the show fake? They all have practiced and practiced for a long time to put on a spectular show.
Couldn't agree more, these opening Ceremonies were absolutely amazing and yet this is the kind of article a journalist wants to write.

China has done an outstanding job with these Olympics, so much so I feel sorry for the ones which have to follow these Olympics, sorry Vancouver and London
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The lip syncing is bad, but from what I heard, the only fireworks scene faked was the helicopter chasing the footprint pattern (for the reasons stated above). It's not like they "faked" the whole thing since that particular scene did take place in real life though, just a cooler angle was shown for TV audiences. See the youtube video below for the footage of the real footprint fireworks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbZrI8onelg


Sucks for the kid though, not being shown since she wasn't cute enough. There was also a story about a wall being built around an old dirty residential area to hide the eyesore.
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I think it's more about the the reason for the lip sync.
Apparently the girl who actually did the singing wasn't cute enough
for the stage.

That just plain sucks if that's how you base your decisions, and
Chinese "decisions" are under a spotlight these days.

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PS. Anyone know how that scroll thing worked? Rolled up, unfurled,
people could walk on it, very thin. Looks like an interesting device.
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I don't think the lipsynching itself was the problem. It was the fact that she was lipsyching someone else's singing and the only reason the singer wasn't allowed to be on stage was because she was 'too ugly'.
its similar to why Britney use to be a superstar, selling millions of records; studios figured they could cover up the fact she couldnt sing using whatever voice synthesizer technology since she was blond, blue eye and a had a great rack
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I think it's more about the the reason for the lip sync.
Apparently the girl who actually did the singing wasn't cute enough
for the stage.

That just plain sucks if that's how you base your decisions, and
Chinese "decisions" are under a spotlight these days.

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PS. Anyone know how that scroll thing worked? Rolled up, unfurled,
people could walk on it, very thin. Looks like an interesting device.
Imagine a country obsessed with looks, those weird Chinese.

I bet the actual girl is probably proud of her song being played at the biggest event in modern Chinese history, at least I hope she's not devastated about not actually singing, I'm sure her parents gave her some 'reason' as to why.
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How would you feel to be the kid, or the parents of the kid who was good enough to sing, but not pretty enough to be seen by the world doing so? Yeah. That's a real boost to the ego. She's seven. Most seven year olds are cute. But hey, you my friend, you're not cute enough...
Meh, singing is all well and good, but most of the world is allergic to uggos.
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I don't think the lipsynching itself was the problem. It was the fact that she was lipsyching someone else's singing and the only reason the singer wasn't allowed to be on stage was because she was 'too ugly'.
I am for this.

Can we put someone hot in place of Amy Winehouse plz.

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How would you feel to be the kid, or the parents of the kid who was good enough to sing, but not pretty enough to be seen by the world doing so? Yeah. That's a real boost to the ego. She's seven. Most seven year olds are cute. But hey, you my friend, you're not cute enough...
Come on parents, you have to know your kid is ugly. Don't set them up for disappointment like this...

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I don't think the lipsynching itself was the problem. It was the fact that she was lipsyching someone else's singing and the only reason the singer wasn't allowed to be on stage was because she was 'too ugly'.
Maybe that is the truth. (according to the media).
But every media is picking on China at the games because of this and that. I have no doubt other country could have done the same thing. Who doesnt' want to show case their country at the best way possible, to a worldwide billions of people?

I think we should just accept that it was a great show. it is now over, and should just enjoy the games. China could be wrong for replacing the little girl of singing, or the fireworks digital enhancement etc. But you got to give it to the chinese for putting up one of the best ceremony ever at the history of the olympics. Media should not target china just because they are china. Like pollution. I am sure the air quality is not the best in Beijing right now (thats what happens when you are the most populated country on earth). But what about LA? What if the games are held in LA? Smogs are always a concern around cali, especially LA. Would the media pick on LA? I seriously doubt that would happen if that is the case....

China should be applauded now for the games. They are doing a good job right now. Everything is going smoothly, when every other ones was doubting them. This is a time to showcase china, and they are doing just that. The ceremony was great, the venus and buildings are great. Even the olympians are saying the olympic village is one of the most advance one there is. China should have been given a chance like every other countries who has held the olympics before, and not let the outside media take over its success.

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Imagine a country obsessed with looks, those weird Chinese.

I bet the actual girl is probably proud of her song being played at the biggest event in modern Chinese history, at least I hope she's not devastated about not actually singing, I'm sure her parents gave her some 'reason' as to why.
This may sound weird but it accepted in Asia that looks are everything and the girl would understand that she's not pretty enough. The valuation of a physical ideal is much more pervasive than it is the west. It's hard for me to explain...


Aside: http://www.nysun.com/foreign/some-ch...eremony/83702/

Some weren't impressed with the show.
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Big effin deal.

She wasn't cute enough. Thems the breaks in the performing arts world. Happens all the time. Young kids get turned away all the time in singing, acting, modelling, etc. because they're not really really good looking.

And as for the fireworks, good. I'm glad they enhanced the shot. It made it that much cooler to watch. The fact that they were actually able to accomplish that fireworks coordination is what amazed me. I darn well better be able to see it as well as possible.
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I have no doubt other country could have done the same thing. Who doesnt' want to show case their country at the best way possible, to a worldwide billions of people?
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:42 AM   #18
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Bah, who cares if they used digital fireworks for ONE shot.
Hell watching it, I kept saying, holy cow is this real, cause that'd be damn tough to do, it must be CGI.

Besides, it was still better than all the chrome plaed Chevy's they had (complete with big chevy signs) at the Atlanta opening ceremonies.
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This may sound weird but it accepted in Asia that looks are everything and the girl would understand that she's not pretty enough. The valuation of a physical ideal is much more pervasive than it is the west. It's hard for me to explain...


Aside: http://www.nysun.com/foreign/some-ch...eremony/83702/

Some weren't impressed with the show.
Can't please everyone. Those bloggers are just nitpicking over personal preferences. Overall, it was still an amazing show. It seems to me the Western media is pretty quick to jump on anything that they can use to criticize the games.
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Some of you guys are being incredibly naive... see those kids on TV or in print ads? Believe it or not, they weren't the only ones to audition... the ones you don't see were apparently not good enough for local/regional ads.
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