Still believe in the death Penalty?

[jolinar of malkshor]

MOD EDIT: Way too much of an article posted.


http://mikeoncrime.com/article/9846/...n-an-execution

I try to put myself in the family members shoes and I just don't think that this is what I would ever want to see. I had a hard enough time watching my pets be put down let a lone a human being. Really, is this the answer?

A recent poll in Canada suggests that 52% of Canadians do not believe in Capital Punishment. Maybe we should have a poll here?

[Flames_Gimp]

stories like this just bring sympathy towards the guilty. what about the victims?

yes it's disturbing to witness an execution and i wouldn't want to witness it but i still like the death penalty.

[burn_baby_burn]

I'm sure viewing an execution is horrible. Witnessing the guilty execute his victims would also be horrible. Where is the sympathy for the two people he shot dead in 1990?

[CaptainCrunch]

That story while tragic certainly doesn't change my view on the Death Penalty. I think in cases of murder where there's no doubt, witness etc, then the Death Penalty to me is certainly a valid punishment, I also think in terms of multiple murderers and serial killers it should apply as well.

When I read the article and he basically drifted off and then his heart stopped, I think that the first thing that came to mind was that he killed a man over a $400 tab and then killed the mans wife, simply because she was there. They probably didn't fall asleep aided by powerfull drugs, they probably suffered and struggled to live after bullets tore through their bodies. They didn't get an easy way out.

I certainly don't have any sympathy for this man, he had a chance to confess, he had a chance to say goodbye to any loved ones, had the chance to know when he was going to go and make his preperations for it.

I'm more concerned with the victims then the criminal in this case, however I think there should be a option in the penalty phase of a death penalty hearing where the family of the victims get a say in the punishment.

[Madman]

If there was a well described and written story about the murders to read before reading this one, my guess is you would read the story of his death with a much different mind set.

[driveway]

I appreciate the arguments that people make in favour of the death penalty, but I remain convinced that creating another victim of murder does not bring justice to past victims.

I would vehemently and actively oppose any move to re-instate the death penalty in Canada.

[Rifleman]

A well deserved death penalty, in my opinion. I see nothing wrong with it in this case.

[Resolute 14]

Indeed. The story about a person being killed isn't supposed to be a feel good story. This won't change my opinion on the death penalty at all. A guy who killed two people for nothing was himself executed. No sympathy at all for him.

[bradster57]

The only problem with the death penalty is that some of the guilty are not afraid to die! I've always felt that keeping them alive in solitary confinement for the rest of their days would be worse than the death penalty!

[Bill Bumface]

It's more expensive than life in prison, it's an easy way out for the convict, and it does not act as a deterrent.

On those grounds alone I see no reason to ever implement it.

When also contemplating all of those people who were pardoned after decades in prison because of DNA evidence, I wonder how many innocent people have been executed. If it's been even one person, which I'm sure it has, then it is not justifiable to have a death penalty.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by driveway

I appreciate the arguments that people make in favour of the death penalty, but I remain convinced that creating another victim of murder does not bring justice to past victims.

but, it 100% guarantees the criminal could never ever be free or re-offend.

What does it cost to feed and shelter a murderer for life as opposed to the cost of a execution? all that money could be used for the better.

better yet, grind up the filthy murderers and turn em into compost and or dog food and make a profit!

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

but, it 100% guarantees the criminal could never ever be free or re-offend.

What does it cost to feed and shelter a murderer for life as opposed to the cost of a execution? all that money could be used for the better.

better yet, grind up the filthy murderers and turn em into compost and or dog food and make a profit!

The problem is that a death penalty doesn't save money with all of the time it spends in appeals courts. It's not like it is only the cost of a .357 shell or something like that.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by fotze

I think it should be a requirement for those who voted for it to watch.

I am not a killer and if my government kills someone then I am a killer, and if I am, I should be required to be involved iin the dirty work.

An open vote should be had for the death penalty, with results tracked, if you voted yes then every time someone is put to death, a lottery is held and 500 people who are for the death penalty are required to come down to witness it. If you are going to kill someone, no matter how deserving, you need to accept your part in it. I am sure lots of people for the death penalty would have no problem watching it.

Also, if there is a tax savings to the killing side, then those people who voted should have their bills reduced as such.

fata it, i'd go if thats what it meant to have the death penalty... fata it, i'd love to see some of these sicko's killed.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

The problem is that a death penalty doesn't save money with all of the time it spends in appeals courts. It's not like it is only the cost of a .357 shell or something like that.

true....i still think a lifetime of "care" for the murderers will cost more

[Bertuzzied]

hmmm on the wall for the death penalty. However i do support forced castrations for rapists and child sex abusers.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

What does it cost to feed and shelter a murderer for life as opposed to the cost of a execution? all that money could be used for the better.

I don't have any numbers to back it up. But I think executing a prisoner is more expensive than keeping him incarcerated for the rest of his life. When you factor in all the lawyers and appeals, it takes decades to execute somebody. That can't be cheap.

Edit: Boblobla beat me to it.

[Russic]

Not really sure I would want to see anybody die in any way. I can't really see what sort of enjoyment or satisfaction I'd get out of it.

[SportsJunky]

I've always felt that execution is an act of arrogance. I do not have the ego to presume that I should decide who deserves life or death. Not my place and I sure as Hell don't want that responsibility and I question anyone who would want it.

[dissentowner]

Yup, still support it. Don't feel sorry for the guy one bit.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

I've always felt that execution is an act of arrogance. I do not have the ego to presume that I should decide who deserves life or death. Not my place and I sure as Hell don't want that responsibility and I question anyone who would want it.

I understand that way of thinking. Even though I don't have a problem with the death penalty, I sure wouldn't want to be the hangman. To respond to your comment about the ego involved in deciding who should live or die. Isn't that what the accused have chosen? They had a choice to kill their victims or not. People who support capital punishment argue that the accused gave up their right to live once they made that choice.