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Old 04-17-2008, 09:59 PM   #1
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Wedding Anniversary Dinner Turns Into Tragedy

Amanda Ferguson, Updated: Thu Apr. 17 2008 17:58:08

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A wedding anniversary lunch at a west-end restaurant ended in tragedy Wednesday when a 77-year-old man was attacked and stabbed to death shortly after he finished the meal with his wife, CTV News has learned.

The couple were celebrating their 29th anniversary at the Royal Fork Buffet restaurant in the area of 149 Street and 100 Avenue just before the incident, police said.

The couple left the restaurant just before 4 p.m. As they got in their car in front of a busy shopping mall, an assailant attacked the elderly man and stabbed him in broad daylight.

A family friend said the victim, who was not been identified by police, was a harmless man who didn't deserve to be on the end of this senseless attack.

"(He was a) very nice man, he had a big heart, he was very kind, loved his wife immensely, it's sad," Donna Phillips said.

Police Insp. Terry Rocchio said the man died after being taken to the University of Alberta Hospital.



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I just saw this on the news tonight. Pretty big WTF?!? An elderly man is going home with his wife after their anniversary, and someone just runs up to him, and stabs him??

They are looking for a white male, so this probably rules out any gang initiation ritual.
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:41 PM   #2
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WTF is wrong with people!!!
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:55 PM   #3
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They are looking for a white male, so this probably rules out any gang initiation ritual.
Cuz white males are never in gangs...
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^ exactly what I thought.
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:10 PM   #6
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Cuz white males are never in gangs...
What he said.

That's crazy though, what would motivate him to attack an elderly man, that he probably doesn't even know whatsoever?
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:29 PM   #7
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What he said.

That's crazy though, what would motivate him to attack an elderly man, that he probably doesn't even know whatsoever?
Drugs, schizophrenia, alot of things. I bet you it could have been anyone, the victim was just in the wrong place at the wrong time when a cracked-out psycho decided to take a turn for the worst.
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Gang initiations?

99.999% of those crazy gang inititiation stories are urban legends. A quick search at snopes will tell you that.
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Old 04-18-2008, 05:24 AM   #9
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I know my thinking is probably completely irrational, and I really don't know how people will think of my opinion.

But I just feel that if I saw something like that happen, and I saw the guy running away on foot...I would run the er over with my car. I honestly think I would. Is there a jury out there that would convict me? There is something completely wrong with someone who thinks that this is an OK thing to do.
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:59 AM   #10
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Is there a jury out there that would convict me?
ummmmm yes? purposefully running someone over in your car is not an ok thing to do. its not like you were acting out of self defense. sure, you might get a lighter charge and leniency in sentencing due to the circumstances but... yes you would be convicted of something.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:17 AM   #11
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They are looking for a white male, so this probably rules out any gang initiation ritual.
classic.

Very sad... it's amazing to see how quickly your life can change.
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That really sucks. Man, I hate Edmonton so much.
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That really sucks. Man, I hate Edmonton so much.
Wondered how long before a comment like that would crop up. Very tragic, but random acts of violence happen everywhere - it's a fact of life in the big city. Not exclusive to Edmonton by any stretch.
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Wondered how long before a comment like that would crop up. Very tragic, but random acts of violence happen everywhere - it's a fact of life in the big city. Not exclusive to Edmonton by any stretch.
Doesn't Edmonton have one of the highest crime rates in Canada? Just below Saskatoon and Regina from what I remember.
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Hmmmm Stabmonton huh??? Well Calgary is getting there, My mother in law works for the police department and told me a girl got off the c-train and man who she didnt know followed her and completely pummeled her to death. It was so bad the family and friends could not identify her. He left he in the buses by the church at a C-train stop in the S.E. Its crazy what some people will do to other people
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Wondered how long before a comment like that would crop up. Very tragic, but random acts of violence happen everywhere - it's a fact of life in the big city. Not exclusive to Edmonton by any stretch.
Random acts of violence dont happen everywhere , why, just the other day I was in Disneyland and didnt see a single act of random violence. Actually, everyone was quite cheerful. I'd almost say it could quite possibly be the happiest place on earth.

Besides, everyone knows random stabbings are patented and exclusive to Edmonton, hence the Stabmonton moniker.

All other random stabbings elsewhere have to pay a royalty fee per stab.

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Doesn't Edmonton have one of the highest crime rates in Canada? Just below Saskatoon and Regina from what I remember.
Must be all of those Oiler fans. Wait, was the guy set on fire afterwards? No? Alright, Oilfans are off the hook....this time....
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Cuz white males are never in gangs...
White people don't form gangs, they form posse's.
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The rumour on the streets up here is that it was a panhandler - which is bad for panhandlers because it puts it one step closer to people responding violently instead of politely to them. The behavior of panhandlers is escalating and becoming more aggressive and the city up here needs to address it quickly.

I don't think it's meth. People blame a lot of stuff on meth but I don't think it is as widespread as people think it is. It is very possibly drug related, but I don't think it will be meth. The reason is that virtually no organized crime is into meth because the profit margins are way too low. You can make it so cheaply you are selling it for $3-$5.00 and the person can get up to a 3 day high from it. Organized crime is more interested in the $30-$50 coke hit, where you are high for a couple of hours, then need another one. No organized crime means lesser marketing or networks to push the stuff. The organized crime is pushing different types of drugs.

This is a tragedy - plain and simple. The neighbourhood it happened in is akin to that neighbourhood up Bow Trail in Calgary just west of Shaganappi Golf Course (where Douey Stevens is or used to be). Near really upscale neighbourhoods, lots of commercial space, lots of seniors and lots of people. For this to happen there is a shock.
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I don't think it's meth. People blame a lot of stuff on meth but I don't think it is as widespread as people think it is. It is very possibly drug related, but I don't think it will be meth. The reason is that virtually no organized crime is into meth because the profit margins are way too low. You can make it so cheaply you are selling it for $3-$5.00 and the person can get up to a 3 day high from it. Organized crime is more interested in the $30-$50 coke hit, where you are high for a couple of hours, then need another one. No organized crime means lesser marketing or networks to push the stuff. The organized crime is pushing different types of drugs.
Actually, meth is very profitable, and mostly tied to organized crime - particularly H.A.. It's cheap to make, and it's sold to the party crowd rather than your junked out addicts - so your overheads are low, and your consumer base is willing to pay a decent price for it. Plus, it's also commonly mixed with ecstasy, effectively reducing the cost of producing E, which also sells to the party crowd for a good price. Both E and Meth are commonly sold under a "brand" and through organized crime's distribution networks.

You're right about cocaine though: that one's still the big money-maker. But you can't underestimate the involvement of organized crime in any type of narcotic sales. Without the distribution networks of the big and medium crim orgs, drug dealing isn't going to make you the really big bucks.
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They've got the guy arrested.
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