Salt water "fuel"

[nik-]

I did a quick search for this and didn't find a thread on it. A Youtube mashup of new clips about a scientist who gets salt water to burn at high heat using radio frequencies.



if there is another thread on this then go ahead and fata me and close this one

[Kipper is King]

Step #1 is turning a radio to the Fan 960 when Rob Kerr is doing the play by play for a fight!

[Dan02]

The question is, is energy out greater then energy in,I'm not so sure it is.

[photon]

News stations shouldn't be allowed to report anything related to science at all. They have no clue.

The salt water isn't burning, the oxygen and hydrogen created from breaking down the water is burning. And to break down the water, you notice how he puts it into this big machine generating radio waves? Where's that being powered from? Maybe a wall socket? So they plug in a huge radio wave generator, split the water, burn the result, and power a tiny Stirling engine. They could have plugged in an electric motor directly and it would be far more efficient.

If you split water, then burn the resulting components, you end up with less energy than you started with, there's no way around that.

At best this could be a better way to get hydrogen from water, but that's unlikely. If he truly had something he'd just test how much energy it took to create a specific amount of hydrogen this way, and with electrolysis, and if his way is better he'd be rich instantly.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by photon

News stations shouldn't be allowed to report anything related to science at all. They have no clue.

The salt water isn't burning, the oxygen and hydrogen created from breaking down the water is burning. And to break down the water, you notice how he puts it into this big machine generating radio waves? Where's that being powered from? Maybe a wall socket? So they plug in a huge radio wave generator, split the water, burn the result, and power a tiny Stirling engine. They could have plugged in an electric motor directly and it would be far more efficient.

If you split water, then burn the resulting components, you end up with less energy than you started with, there's no way around that.

At best this could be a better way to get hydrogen from water, but that's unlikely. If he truly had something he'd just test how much energy it took to create a specific amount of hydrogen this way, and with electrolysis, and if his way is better he'd be rich instantly.

Buzzkill.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by photon

News stations shouldn't be allowed to report anything related to science at all. They have no clue.

The salt water isn't burning, the oxygen and hydrogen created from breaking down the water is burning. And to break down the water, you notice how he puts it into this big machine generating radio waves? Where's that being powered from? Maybe a wall socket? So they plug in a huge radio wave generator, split the water, burn the result, and power a tiny Stirling engine. They could have plugged in an electric motor directly and it would be far more efficient.

If you split water, then burn the resulting components, you end up with less energy than you started with, there's no way around that.

At best this could be a better way to get hydrogen from water, but that's unlikely. If he truly had something he'd just test how much energy it took to create a specific amount of hydrogen this way, and with electrolysis, and if his way is better he'd be rich instantly.

PWNED!!!11!!

Great post, photon.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by fotze

I remember writing to Licia Corbella about her faulty math in one column where the numbers were germain to the story and she wrote back poopooing it saying whatever.

And she is the Editorial Page editor of the Herald now.

[photon]

Originally Posted by fotze

I remember writing to Licia Corbella about her faulty math in one column where the numbers were germain to the story and she wrote back poopooing it saying whatever.

You think about how totally wrong and misleading the media is on subjects where you consider yourself very knowledgable and you have to assume they are that way on subjects you are not very experienced in.

Exactly, trust the news about as far as you hold the paper from your nose.