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Originally Posted by Wookie
that was kinda weird.. this whole thread seems weird. I'm actually not sure if it's in jest or not. That guy is also weird.
Ambiguity has taken over. Check the back of your seat for the programme. Do not compare to what your neighbour may already be reading - that way lies confusion.
It's just like an endless jazz loop, never reaching a resolution. The dark pops up back inside your mouth when it closes, forever hidden and snaky.
Hope that helps!
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Ambiguity has taken over. Check the back of your seat for the programme. Do not compare to what your neighbour may already be reading - that way lies confusion.
It's just like an endless jazz loop, never reaching a resolution. The dark pops up back inside your mouth when it closes, forever hidden and snaky.
Don't care much for the first guy, but that guy rapping is amazing!
Could he also be the man responsible for all post-death 2Pac albums?
I'm not trying to be rude or insulting to rap ... I just don't get rap. In the interest of trying to understand it better, could you enlighten me as to what's so awesome about that guy's performance? I watched it and didn't see anything amazing or artistic ... what am I missing?
I'm not trying to be rude or insulting to rap ... I just don't get rap. In the interest of trying to understand it better, could you enlighten me as to what's so awesome about that guy's performance? I watched it and didn't see anything amazing or artistic ... what am I missing?
Typically its a generational thing, meaning most young people who have grown up with underground and now mainstream hip-hop & rap inherently appreciate the artistic qualities without necessesarily understanding them technically.
For older cats, who remember when there was no mainstream hip-hop or rap, basically I have noticed that it seems the more white you are, the harder it is to get.
Western art music (white music) is based on melody, harmony, and harmonic progression. While rhythm is of course also integral, its subtleties in white music are no where near the level of depth of our african counterparts (traditional african tribal music).
In african music, there is a huge rhythmic element absent from white music. It only begins with things like insane syncopation, inflection, multi-timbral and throat singing, poly-rhythms...hell, the way they click their tounges in some cases in considered on par with the greatest piano and violin virtuosos.
So come the evolution of blues, jazz, and the freedom of the black slaves in the US, hip-hop, rap, and now I would argue even drum n' bass have direct roots in reggae, dub, blues, jazz, folk, gypsy music, indian music, and the like.
So modern hip-hop may sound like its all about 'bitches and hos' but if you dig a little deeper, you'll find some amazing stuff. Imagine a guy busting out in unison with a John Coltrane sax solo at 10,000 miles an hour!?
I'm not trying to be rude or insulting to rap ... I just don't get rap. In the interest of trying to understand it better, could you enlighten me as to what's so awesome about that guy's performance? I watched it and didn't see anything amazing or artistic ... what am I missing?
He does pretty much dead on impressions of 3 very well known rappers. Honestly, I would be hard pressed to differentiate his voice from the real deal. Although I am only a casual rap fan.
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Typically its a generational thing, meaning most young people who have grown up with underground and now mainstream hip-hop & rap inherently appreciate the artistic qualities without necessesarily understanding them technically.
For older cats, who remember when there was no mainstream hip-hop or rap, basically I have noticed that it seems the more white you are, the harder it is to get.
Western art music (white music) is based on melody, harmony, and harmonic progression. While rhythm is of course also integral, its subtleties in white music are no where near the level of depth of our african counterparts (traditional african tribal music).
In african music, there is a huge rhythmic element absent from white music. It only begins with things like insane syncopation, inflection, multi-timbral and throat singing, poly-rhythms...hell, the way they click their tounges in some cases in considered on par with the greatest piano and violin virtuosos.
So come the evolution of blues, jazz, and the freedom of the black slaves in the US, hip-hop, rap, and now I would argue even drum n' bass have direct roots in reggae, dub, blues, jazz, folk, gypsy music, indian music, and the like.
So modern hip-hop may sound like its all about 'bitches and hos' but if you dig a little deeper, you'll find some amazing stuff. Imagine a guy busting out in unison with a John Coltrane sax solo at 10,000 miles an hour!?
I appreciate a lot of different genres of music, ranging for baroque, classical and chamber music through to rock, metal, blues, jazz, celtic, bluegrass, reggae, folk, alt country to various types of world music, including Tuvan throat singing, (Kongar-ol Ondar is hip!), East Indian, Latin, Scandinavian pop and folk, and various African influences. Traditional Madagascar music is wicked. I can even understand what people get about other genres that I may not like ... disco, punk, techno, big band, opera ... I get those even though I don't enjoy them. But rap I totally don't get, and I'm afraid your explanation didn't help to understand why this guy is awesome or what I'm not getting about his stuff. Are you saying it's his rhythm? Is that it?
Last edited by Ford Prefect; 03-04-2008 at 10:47 AM.
He does pretty much dead on impressions of 3 very well known rappers. Honestly, I would be hard pressed to differentiate his voice from the real deal. Although I am only a casual rap fan.
So he's an awesome impersonator, is that what's so wicked about his stuff?
Don't care much for the first guy, but that guy rapping is amazing!
Could he also be the man responsible for all post-death 2Pac albums?
Tupac's thousands of hours spent in recording studios are responsible for all the post-humous songs. At his time of death Tupac had already recorded something like 300 songs (+/-) that were never released; this was mainly due to the fact that they weren't as good as the songs that were released on the albums that were released while he was alive. This also explains why most of the post-humous songs are sub-par.