Voter Fraud Rumors in New Hampshire Primaries

[Finner]

From http://politics.slashdot.org/politic.../1635225.shtml

"Multiple indications of vote fraud are beginning to pop up regarding the New Hampshire primary elections. Roughly 80% of New Hampshire precincts use Diebold machines, while the remaining 20% are hand counted. A Black Box Voting contributor has compiled a chart of results from hand counted precincts vs. results from machine counted precincts. In machine counted precincts, Clinton beat Obama by almost 5%. In hand counted precincts, Obama beat Clinton by over 4%, which closely matches the scientific polls that were conducted leading up to the election. Another issue is the Republican results from Sutton precinct. The final results showed Ron Paul with 0 votes in Sutton. The next day a Ron Paul supporter came forward claiming that both she and several of her family members had voted for Ron Paul in Sutton. Black Box Voting reports that after being asked about the discrepancy Sutton officials decided that Ron Paul actually received 31 votes in Sutton, but they were left off of the tally sheet due to 'human error.'"

If you click on the links in the article you can see the charts that were made up to reflect this. It will be interesting to see if anything comes from this.

[Azure]

Human error, eh?

Told you Hillary will do anything to get into power.

Better to commit 'human error' than wind up dead after she sends her henchmen after you.

[MelBridgeman]

Usa ! Usa !

[IntenseFan]

These days in the US you simply can't go into an election without a lawyer!

[llama64]

Why are they still using these Diebold machines? I thought they were proven to be insecure and untrustworthy along time ago.

[Finner]

I was hoping Obama would win. Maybe he still will!!!

Either way, you would think with the multiple voting fiascos in the states, that they would finally have figure it out.

[The Goon]

Seriously, why can't the USA have an election nowadays without the threat of fraud? Why are our elections so easy and their elections so difficult?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by The Goon

Seriously, why can't the USA have an election nowadays without the threat of fraud? Why are our elections so easy and their elections so difficult?

Hillary is involved, what do you expect?

She'll do anything to get into office.

[IntenseFan]

Originally Posted by The Goon

Seriously, why can't the USA have an election nowadays without the threat of fraud? Why are our elections so easy and their elections so difficult?

Because we don't use those bloody machines.

As antiquated 100% hand counting may be, our smaller population makes it possible and in this case our lack of technology has actually mostly benefited us (or at least saved us from long protracted litigation over election results - except Ward 10 of course).

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by The Goon

Seriously, why can't the USA have an election nowadays without the threat of fraud? Why are our elections so easy and their elections so difficult?

So easy? Isn't there the possibility of us having to go back to the polls for the third time since 2004 pretty soon? We definitely seem to find a way to avoid all the calls of vote-tampering that the States has endured recently, but if you end up without a majority government up here, man can it be cumbersome.

[evman150]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

So easy? Isn't there the possibility of us having to go back to the polls for the third time since 2004 pretty soon? We definitely seem to find a way to avoid all the calls of vote-tampering that the States has endured recently, but if you end up without a majority government up here, man can it be cumbersome.

Wow, that has absolutely nothing to do with what he was talking about.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by evman150

Wow, that has absolutely nothing to do with what he was talking about.

Fair enough, I probably took it off topic a little. Just had to state that I think our elections(or at least what becomes of the winner in the ensuing months afterwards) are in no way always clean and clear cut.

[worth]

Got this in an email...

Fraud in New Hampshire? S.C. to use voting machines banned in other

Posted by: "John Perna" savefreedom2005@yahoo.com savefreedom2005

Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:37 pm (PST)

Fraud in New Hampshire? S.C. to use voting machines banned in other states,
says Election Commission spokesman Chris Whitmire.

Chris Whitmire may be reached at
803 734-9060 CWhitmire@elections.sc.gov

If contact with Chris Whitmire results in no action, Gov. Mark Sandford may be contacted at 803 734-2100 mark@gov.sc.gov

"Those Who Cast the Votes Decide Nothing-
Those who Count the Votes decide everything"
Joseph Stalin

Electronic voting machines in Florida showed one candidate with negative votes.
Fraud in the central tabulator in New Hampshire?
This youtube shows the votes, when they were first released, as a town by town tabulation. This early release shows Ron Paul won.
DOWNLOAD THIS VIDEO AND SAVE IT. THIS IS HARD EVIDENCE.
01-09-2008 4:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8xgWjFe1cE
If you visit this site now, you will find that the results have been flipped to match the central tabulator:
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...sults_by_town/
Ron Paul - Now The Boston Globe Changed Their Story http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=Zu0Oaw9tIPM

Here is actual recorded testimony, given under oath,
by Clinton Curtis who admits that he wrote the program for vote fraud:
Rigged USA Elections Exposed
http://www.fliggo.com:80/video/sk0SiTCu

Nothing is an honest count unless it is in full view of the people. NO electronic vote counting machine does that.

http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/...ther_sta26854/

Associated Press
Monday, January 7, 2008

GREENVILLE — South Carolina election officials say they still plan to use touch-screen voting machines despite the fact that other states have banned the use of similar systems made by the same company.
Last month, top election officials in Ohio and Colorado declared that Election Systems and Software's iVotronic is unfit for elections.
The ban was prompted by a study done for the state of Ohio in which researchers found electronic voting systems could be corrupted with magnets or handheld electronic devices such as Palm Treos.
"We've reviewed the report and we remain confident in the security and accuracy of South Carolina's voting system," state Election Commission spokesman Chris Whitmire said.
But the South Carolina League of Women Voters has renewed its call for the state to record votes on paper as well as electronically to allow for accuracy checks, though there have been no documented cases of actual election tampering.
"It's very difficult to get evidence that somebody tampered with the vote if you have no way of knowing what the vote was before they tampered," said Eleanor Hare, a computer scientist who participated in a study of the machines by the South Carolina League of Women Voters.
The machines have been used statewide since 2006.
The Ohio study found the machines "lack the fundamental technical controls necessary to guarantee a trustworthy election under operational conditions."
"Exploitable vulnerabilities allow even persons with limited access — voters and precinct poll workers — to compromise voting machines and precinct results, and, in some cases, to inject and spread software viruses into the central election management system," the report says.
However, the company that makes the machines says on its Web site that it disagrees with the Ohio report's technical findings.
"All of our voting systems have been thoroughly tested and examined under realistic election conditions before those systems are ever made available to states for additional testing and consideration," the company's statement says. "The testing and certification processes already in place are extremely rigorous, ensuring that voting systems meet well-established standards for performance under realistic election conditions."
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[worth]

and

Can You Count on Voting Machines?
http://www.nytimes.com:80/2008/01/06/magazine/06Vote-t.html?ref=magazine
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Voter Fraud Against Paul Confirmed in Sutton, N.H.

http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=655
http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=681
http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1587

By admin | January 8, 2008

Kurt Nimmo
Truth News
January 8, 2008
According to a post this evening on the Ron Paul Forums, vote fraud occurred in Sutton, New Hampshire:
Sutton with 100% reporting reported 0 votes for paul but poster in Sutton posted:
My mom, aunt, and dad all voted for RP today in my hometown, My mom and aunt both work passing out ballots, and checking them off. I just looked at the politico map and it says their town has ZERO votes for Ron. Now i know that there isn’t corruption on voting in that little town, so where they reported it must be. What do I do, anyone know???

Originally Posted by sstjean View Post
This was posted to ronpaul-801 tonight: “This town numbers are wrong wrong wrong on this map. I am from Sutton originally and my parents and one aunt all voted for Ron Paul today and Sutton says 0. So this is wrong. This is a town that had 20 people counting the ballots and I have no reason to believe that they cheated. Small town and I was born and raised there. The real numbers will come in by morning. The electronic machines in the big towns are the ones we have to worry about.”
Earlier in the day, Brad Blog reported other suspicious behavior:
Our Spidey-sense started tingling before going to bed last night and hearing reports, on MSNBC, that there were 17 paper ballots cast in Dixville Notch, NH’s midnight, first-in-the-country voting. The report said that there were only 16 registered voters in the tiny voting precinct, yet 17 votes had been cast — suggesting that somehow, paper ballot “voter fraud” skullduggery was afoot.
Brad, however, believes the story is easily debunked:
Given that one of those reports seems to have begun on The DRUDGE REPORT earlier today, we’re not particularly surprised that the MSM kept repeating the easily-debunked stories running all day.
That, even while there are reasons to be concerned about how the paper ballots used in the New Hampshire Primary will actually be counted by the hackable Diebold optical-scan systems used in the state, as controlled and programmed by an outrageously bad private contractor there.
Of course, there is plenty of room for hank-panky, as Michael Collins notes:
81% of New Hampshire ballots are counted in secret by a private corporation named Diebold Election Systems (now known as “Premier”). The elections run on these machines are programmed by one company, LHS Associates, based in Methuen, MA. We know nothing about the people programming these machines, and we know even less about LHS Associates. We know even less about the secret vote counting software used to tabulate 81% of our ballots. People like to say “but we use paper ballots! They can always be counted by hand!”
But they’re not. They’re counted by Diebold. Only a candidate can request a hand recount, and most never do so. And a rigged election can easily become a rigged recount, as we learned in Ohio 2004, where two election officials were convicted of rigging their recount….
In short, the stage was set by Diebold and Republican operatives to rig yet another election, as the above first-hand account seems to indicate.


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Hacking Democracy 1 of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzPXer7946E

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Hacking Democracy 9 of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J36Jf...eature=related

Diebold Demands HBO Cancel Film Hacking Democracy (Alex Jones report)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okCdo87cv0o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBO8Bpv2ySg
Anyone can be Hacking Democracy in Florida Part 1

Anyone can be Hacking Democracy in Florida Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSOdthPoOeo

http://www.shadowvote.org/

HBO's Hacking Democracy Promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7bkHPqSQX0

Hacking Democracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k-xL15jFzM

Got Vote?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGE_CmX8GuI

changing the ROMs of a Nedap e-voting computer in 60 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EowKalRT3lc

Ron Paul Votes Not Counted In New Hampshire District
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...ot_counted.htm
New Hampshire District Admits Ron Paul Votes Not Counted
Sutton township reported Congressman had zero votes, actual number was 31
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...ict_admits.htm
Where Paper Prevailed, Different Results
http://www.legitgov.org/nh_machine_vs_paper.html
99 Ways to Steal Elections: The Story of John Fund and Ron Paul http://howtheneoconsstolefreedom.blo...-story-of.html
Here are a is an amazing site that shows proof of fraud...
http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/discus.cgi

[troutman]

Nothing about this at CNN. But Kerry has endorsed Obama (and snubbed Edwards):

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/

[fredr123]

Someone should post those links on reddit.com.

[foofighter15]

[The Goon]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Fair enough, I probably took it off topic a little. Just had to state that I think our elections(or at least what becomes of the winner in the ensuing months afterwards) are in no way always clean and clear cut.

Yeah, I just meant ours our easy in how the election day process is run. Just a mark next to the candidate. In the USA, they have voting machines, punch cards, close your eyes and throw a dart, etc etc. On the day of their federal election, it seems like every state has their own voting method.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by troutman

Nothing about this at CNN. But Kerry has endorsed Obama (and snubbed Edwards):

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/

No but now Ron Paul is now on CNN defending himself against old racial smears and doing a fine job. Still the smear job is what people will remember.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

No but now Ron Paul is now on CNN defending himself against old racial smears and doing a fine job. Still the smear job is what people will remember.

Wasn't he exonerated from those slurs a long time ago? Something about a ghost writer writing in his name and how he had absolutely nothing to do with it.