USA Political race knee-deep in religion. People getting tired

[HOZ]

With Obama making a huge comeback and the Republican nomination still up for grabs. Things are getting more and more interesting. Religion is popping up more annoyingly. With candidates being asked more about what religion they have rather than what leadership qualities they have.

I would hope, in vain most likely, the anti-religious bigots here will not take this opportunity to spew their vitrol.

Knee-Deep in Religion
By Charles Krauthammer

This campaign is knee-deep in religion, and it's only going to get worse. I'd thought that the limits of professed public piety had already been achieved during the Republican CNN/YouTube debate when some squirrelly looking guy held up a Bible and asked, "Do you believe every word of this book?" -- and not one candidate dared reply: None of your damn business.

[RougeUnderoos]

This is a great idea. Choosing a President based on how fervently they declare their belief in a supernatural being, or their ability to pu$$yfoot around the fact that they (most of them, anyway) actually don't believe the world is 7,000 years old is clearly the best way to do things.

There.

Hopefully I didn't breach the parameters set by your disclaimer.

[Azure]

Sad really.

I hope Clinton crashes and burns.

Obama is a good choice to me....but NONE of the candidates seem to be taking charge in a campaign to reunite the country and get the US back on track.

Nobody.

[arsenal]

I think Ron Paul is probably the closest. He has a huge internet following, but as far as the main stream media goes, he is a nobody.

[maverickeastwood]

Ron Paul has a huge internet following and has the cash rolling in because of. He's gotta get on TV and posters. Needs more than $11,500,000 for that though. President Paul...hmm

[arsenal]

The problem Paul is having, is that none of the major new stations (MSNBC, CNN, etc) are giving him the time of day. He was not part of the "Meet the Candidates" that was hosted by MSNBC.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by arsenal

I think Ron Paul is probably the closest. He has a huge internet following, but as far as the main stream media goes, he is a nobody.

Howard Dean had a huge internet following and was the darling of the mainstream media, until they all turned against him after the New Hampshire primary.

I wouldn't rule Paul completely out of it, but he stands as much a chance of winning the Republican nomination as Pat Buchanan did back in 1996.

[MarchHare]

As for the topic at hand, I hate that religion is involved with politics at all. Thankfully it plays much less of an effect here in Canada than it does in the US.

Corporations don't choose CEOs based on their religious beliefs; they choose them based on their qualifications, ability to lead, and past accomplishments. In fact, if someone asked a prospective CEO in a job interview, "Do you believe every word of this book?" while holding up a Bible, the appropriate response would be, "Not that it's any of your business anyway, but you're not even legally allowed to factor in my religious beliefs or lack thereof when determining if you want to hire me or not." It's a shame politics doesn't work the same way.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Azure

Sad really.

I hope Clinton crashes and burns.

Obama is a good choice to me....but NONE of the candidates seem to be taking charge in a campaign to reunite the country and get the US back on track.

Nobody.

Yep, and that is soooo sad. The democrats are still caught up in Bush hating. What that has to do with this election is a mystery to me. Not one of the Republican candidates has a background that would indicate they are a Bush clone. I'm waiting for someone to make the election about the FUTURE. Idiots.

Alan Keyes has joined the race on the Republican side. The guy is insane. Some great ideas, but he's way to conservative soically for my taste. He will not be quiet, that is for sure. I would wager that something he says or brings up will eliminate at least one Republican from the race.

Right now Obama is the clear favorite democrat for my vote. I think I'm leaning McCain on the other side but I don't think he can win.

[Azure]

DFF, notice how Fred Thompson came in on fire....and burned out with time?

I wonder if Keyes will do the same thing.

I want someone JFK like in the Whitehouse....Obama is the closest choice to that.

Anyone but Hillary.

Anyone.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Yep, and that is soooo sad. The democrats are still caught up in Bush hating. What that has to do with this election is a mystery to me. Not one of the Republican candidates has a background that would indicate they are a Bush clone. I'm waiting for someone to make the election about the FUTURE. Idiots.

Alan Keyes has joined the race on the Republican side. The guy is insane. Some great ideas, but he's way to conservative soically for my taste. He will not be quiet, that is for sure. I would wager that something he says or brings up will eliminate at least one Republican from the race.

Right now Obama is the clear favorite democrat for my vote. I think I'm leaning McCain on the other side but I don't think he can win.

It's funny and sad about the Bush bashing. It seems like the thing for stupid people to laugh at these days. The Dems should be concerned more about moving on and talking about a new government.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by peter12

It's funny and sad about the Bush bashing. It seems like the thing for stupid people to laugh at these days. The Dems should be concerned more about moving on and talking about a new government.

The whole country should.

Even certain Republican candidates have bashed Bush, seemingly as a means to gain some sort of advantage.

[Azure]

Alan Keyes...

In answering a question about global warming, he continued his criticisms of other candidates, saying, "I'm in favor of reducing global warming, because I think the most important emission we need to control is the hot air emission of politicians who pretend one thing and don't deliver."

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Azure

Anyone but Hillary.

Anyone.

Just out of curiosity, what's the reason for your Hillary-hate? Personally, I'm a huge Obama fan, but I really don't understand why so many people seem to despise Clinton as much as they do.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Just out of curiosity, what's the reason for your Hillary-hate? Personally, I'm a huge Obama fan, but I really don't understand why so many people seem to despise Clinton as much as they do.

Power-hungry egotistical *&^%$ who'll do 'anything' to get into power.

Bush-Clinton-Bush-?

Anyone but Hillary.



On a more serious note, while I do disagree with her on some issues, agree on others, she has too much of a 'history' to be in the White House.

I think the US needs a clean, fresh start, and not someone who has been around the block in Washington for too long.

She did vote in favor of the Iraq War, but the bigger problem to me is the fact that she voted in favor of it despite NOT reading ANY intelligence reports provided by the Bush administration. Its pretty well documented that ALL of Congress only 'skimmed' through the report, which to me is one of the 'biggest' reason the US got into that mess.

[MarchHare]

Power-hungry egotistical *&^%$ who'll do 'anything' to get into power.

That describes just about everyone in Washington, sadly.

[Vulcan]

I think that religion should have a part in elections but only so far as it impacts their decision making. Kennedy was the first Catholic elected US President and if you're a good Catholic you obey the Pope. So the inference would be that such a man would ban birth control and follow the Vatican's political beliefs. This was something Kennedy had to overcome and even so my grandfather, a staunch Orangeman from Boston, hated the idea of a Catholic President and said he'd never live out his term.
I think the truth is most politicians only give religion some lip service and being truly religious and being a politician is probably an oxymoron.

[Eric Vail]

"Those who say that religion has nothing to do with politics does not know what religion is." - Mahatma Gandhi

Religion is a huge part of our world today. The religion or lack of one effects a person's approach at everything they do. I think religion will always form part of the political debate.

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by arsenal

I think Ron Paul is probably the closest. He has a huge internet following, but as far as the main stream media goes, he is a nobody.

Ron Paul is way too radical for the mainstream. I'm all for liberty but some of his ideas are pretty out there. There's no way he gets elected and for good reason.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

That describes just about everyone in Washington, sadly.

Pretty much.

Obama is young though, hasn't been around for THAT long.

A lot of people look at his inexperience as a negative towards him being President.

To me its awesome. JFK was young too.