11-19-2007, 11:29 AM
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Three boys aged 8 and 9 years old charged with raping an 11 year old girl
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/boys_rape
ACWORTH, Ga. - Three boys aged eight and nine were being held Monday in a detention centre on charges of kidnapping and raping an 11-year-old girl in the woods near a suburban apartment complex, police said.
The alleged attack happened Thursday and the girl's mother reported it to authorities Sunday, Acworth police Capt. Wayne Dennard said.
"The victim said they were playing outdoors and the girl was forced into a wooded area where she was sexually assaulted, where one of the boys raped her," Dennard told The Associated Press.
The three boys - an eight-year-old and two nine-year-olds - were charged with rape, kidnapping, false imprisonment and sexual assault, Dennard said.
Man, that is sick. I've never heard of a rape committed by 3rd and 4th graders on a 6th grader. Disgusting.
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11-19-2007, 11:35 AM
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Geez. I didn't even know it was possible for kids that young to commit an act as horrible as that.
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11-19-2007, 11:41 AM
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This will be one for the psychologists. From what I've read rape has at least some social context to it, normally it's poor/disadvantged men assaulting women in the prime of reproduction.
For two kids to commit such a terrible crime. Wow, there has got to be come biological/inherited factor behind it.
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11-19-2007, 11:48 AM
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The world is a scary place that's changed since I was 8 and got cooties for holding a girls hand.
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11-19-2007, 11:53 AM
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This is the most morally and logisticly shocking thing I've heard in a while. How does something like this happen.
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11-19-2007, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matata
This is the most morally and logisticly shocking thing I've heard in a while. How does something like this happen.
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I have no idea. I was shocked when I read this. I'd be interested to see more information as it becomes available in the next few days.
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11-19-2007, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
I have no idea. I was shocked when I read this. I'd be interested to see more information as it becomes available in the next few days.
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Likewise. As the police say in the article - "the investigation is far from over".
It's probably more likely that the girl is making the whole story up than it is for an 8-year old to commit rape.
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11-19-2007, 12:27 PM
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I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner.
Kids are "growing up" faster than ever before. With parents letting their 7-10 yr olds play games such as Halo and other violent games, plus watch violent movies, they become desensitized to violence much quicker. Add to that an explosion in tv shows like CSI and Law & Order, which kids aren't sheltered from, a new normalcy is around. Add to that Family Guy, Britney Spears, and other shows/influences with their overt sexual overtones, and we have kids with new ideas than ever before.
It's extremely disturbing... but the influences are all there if not controlled. Today's "I want my kids to have everything I never had" parents who spoil their kids to no end have nobody to blame but themselves.
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11-19-2007, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JayP
It's probably more likely that the girl is making the whole story up than it is for an 8-year old to commit rape.
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to me that still seems like the most logical and likely story as well. let's all wait and see how it plays out before bemoaning the downfall of society.
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11-19-2007, 12:41 PM
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Deny it if you will... you obviously don't spend much time around youngsters... 10 yr old girls who NEED to wear makeup to school... etc.
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11-19-2007, 12:44 PM
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And keep in mind, the fact that they raped her doesn't mean they had intercourse. The boys could have used something else like a stick to rape her. (if they did indeed do it.)
Edit- just read the entire article; and I agree something doesn't add up. And I was about that age the first time a girl asked me to play "show me yours and I'll show you mine." I can only imagine what might have been said if somebody caught us.
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11-19-2007, 12:46 PM
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this is a story i plan to follow with much interest.
It will be interesting to see if the dad is right that the girl was just trying to stay out of trouble or not, and how they are tried. I don't think you can treat them as adults here. Yes its a serious thing, but they are 8 and 9
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11-19-2007, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by calculoso
Deny it if you will... you obviously don't spend much time around youngsters... 10 yr old girls who NEED to wear makeup to school... etc.
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nobody is denying anything...but dont jump to conclusions because you see young girls wearing makeup. there are still two sides to this story and it's far from being a dead-gone conclusion. in the end, it still could be a very true and unfortunate story....but what's more likely, kids comitting gang rape or kids lying to get out of trouble? i know which one i did more often when i was that age.
(p.s it was a close call, but i did more lying).
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11-19-2007, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ken0042
And keep in mind, the fact that they raped her doesn't mean they had intercourse. The boys could have used something else like a stick to rape her.
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Very true. That 'r' word seems to be thrown around more losely now adays to garner more sympathy for victims. While I don't know anything that happened in this case I'm just pointing out that I've heard that term used in discussion of court cases in the news when referring to something someone said to the victim as opposed to anything physical. I've noticed that the word has already lost some meaning when cases of forced intercourse are now sometimes referred to as a form of sexual assult in the media as opposed to calling it rape.
Last edited by Cowboy89; 11-19-2007 at 12:52 PM.
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11-19-2007, 12:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ken0042
And keep in mind, the fact that they raped her doesn't mean they had intercourse. The boys could have used something else like a stick to rape her.
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Holy Evil dead.
That is messed up. Wasn't there an elementary rape incident in Edmonton a few years back? i think they were older than Grade 3 kids though.
Last edited by Bertuzzied; 11-19-2007 at 12:54 PM.
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11-19-2007, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fotze
I wonder what shows Hitler watched when growing up.
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No kidding. Thank god we've since banned the video games he was constantly playing.
Blaming actions on tv/movies/games is just an excuse parents use to distract from their bad parenting.
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11-19-2007, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ken0042
And keep in mind, the fact that they raped her doesn't mean they had intercourse. The boys could have used something else like a stick to rape her. (if they did indeed do it.)
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Not running with the stick theory but I'd be more inclined to think that there was some forced oral as opposed to forced intercourse. I don't know about you guys but I know I wasn't getting fully sprung at the age of eight so forced intercourse would be like trying to put a worm back in the ground.
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11-19-2007, 01:06 PM
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What to even say to this?
Good to see that TV got blamed fairly early.
TV or no TV, people are still responsible for their actions. If they're too young to be responsible, then guess who's problem it becomes?
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11-19-2007, 01:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Good to see that TV got blamed fairly early.
TV or no TV, people are still responsible for their actions. If they're too young to be responsible, then guess who's problem it becomes?
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I'm pretty sure that TV had something to do with me deciding at age 3 I would lie down in the middle of the road, so I could get flattened by a steam roller like Yogi Bear.
Not saying TV is the cause of all problems; but there are some ideas that would never enter young minds if they hadn't seen it first hand for themselves.
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11-19-2007, 01:15 PM
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Since I don't think we need multiple rape threads, I'll post this even more disturbing news article here:
US man charged with raping daughters, accused of using shock collar to enforce obedience
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...ar-Arrests.php
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