Another "Taser-wielding RCMP officer"

[MelBridgeman]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...dpaperboy.html

'He couldn't wait to use it' wife claims of Mountie who shocked her husband, 68

John Peters, 68-year-old, claims excessive force over parking ticket

Was that it?

The officer tried to write a ticket, but John Peters objected and drove off,

Not a smart move

Peters have not filed a formal complaint

I wonder why..

John Peters is facing three charges, including resisting arrest and obstructing and assaulting a police officer.

Did he assault the officer after being tasered? People get paid to write such objective crap?

[Jayems]

Wow. Who would have thought running from the police would have resulted in you being tasered. I'd like to hear the cops side of the story... probably the part where he refused to get down because he felt justified in running from the cops...

[JayP]

The guy drives away from a cop, eventually pulls over, then gets out of his vehicle and approaches the cop his his arms raised in "self-defense"...and he's shocked he got tasered?

If a cop pulls you over and you get out of your vehicle you're asking for trouble.

[CaptainCrunch]

You know that two days after another RCMP officer is shot and killed that the RCMP is going to be totally on edge.

Objecting to a ticket and driving off is pure stupidity, I bet that there was also colorful language and threats from this Peters character.

Finally pulling over, getting out of your vehicle and walking towards a police officer with your hands in a defensive position is going to get you shot.

But because we live in a overly sensitive politically correct protect the stupid civilization, I'm better the cop gets fired and the idiot gets his ticket ripped up.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

You know that two days after another RCMP officer is shot and killed that the RCMP is going to be totally on edge.

Objecting to a ticket and driving off is pure stupidity, I bet that there was also colorful language and threats from this Peters character.

Finally pulling over, getting out of your vehicle and walking towards a police officer with your hands in a defensive position is going to get you shot.

But because we live in a overly sensitive politically correct protect the stupid civilization, I'm better the cop gets fired and the idiot gets his ticket ripped up.

Where does it say he was walking towards the officer with his hands in a defensive position?

This Peters character is an old man who is blind in one eye and suffers from some sort of neurological disorder. He's not exactly OddJob hopping out of the car and throwing his top hat.

But of course there are some of us who don't believe that cops can ever make a mistake.

Oh god... here we go.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Where does it say he was walking towards the officer with his hands in a defensive position?

This Peters character is an old man who is blind in one eye and suffers from some sort of neurological disorder. He's not exactly OddJob hopping out of the car and throwing his top hat.

But of course there are some of us who don't believe that cops can ever make a mistake.

"John Peters said, adding that he had raised his arm to defend himself."

The guy drove away from a cop and then decided to pull over, get out of the vehicle, and approach the cop with his arms raised to defend himself...but he's not looking for trouble.

Most people that want to talk things out usually don't have their arms up to defend themselves.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by JayP

"John Peters said, adding that he had raised his arm to defend himself."

The guy drove away from a cop and then decided to pull over, get out of the vehicle, and approach the cop with his arms raised to defend himself...but he's not looking for trouble.

Well, the full paragraph says:

"After the officer arrived he jolted him two times with a Taser, John Peters said, adding that he had raised his arm to defend himself."

I have no idea where you guys are getting the whole "approached the cop with his arms raised". It doesn't say that anywhere.

If the guy got out of the car and went toward the officer with his arms raised then maybe he deserved to get the jolt. Did he though?

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Bent Wookie

Oh god... here we go.

Fun isn't it? The word 'taser' should be added into the word filter, maybe replaced with 'electrical stimulating incentive device'.

These cases are usually a he said/she said thing. Taking quotes from either side is pointless, it's not like they are going to admit what they did wrong. Like the saying, there are always three sides to a story, both peoples and the truth.

[Bobblehead]

While I don't think the police are immune to mistakes or above criticism, I do think that they have a tough job and take way more crap in their daily job than they deserve.

The officer tries to give a ticket, the guy doesn't agree so he jumps in his vehicle and drives of, then pulls over a block later, gets out of the vehicle and as the officer approaches, the guy puts his arms up in the air.

Maybe the Officer was wrong, I wasn't there so I can't say, but in this case I would tend to give the Officer the benefit of the doubt.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by JayP

The guy drives away from a cop, eventually pulls over, then gets out of his vehicle and approaches the cop his his arms raised in "self-defense"...and he's shocked he got tasered?

If a cop pulls you over and you get out of your vehicle you're asking for trouble.

Dude is lucky he did this in Canada. If he tried to pull such a stunt in the US, his wife would be planning his funeral right now.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Where does it say he was walking towards the officer with his hands in a defensive position?

This Peters character is an old man who is blind in one eye and suffers from some sort of neurological disorder. He's not exactly OddJob hopping out of the car and throwing his top hat.

But of course there are some of us who don't believe that cops can ever make a mistake.

Its easy for people to say that he wasn't a threat now, after all the dust has cleared. Afterall, hindsight is 20/20. But try putting yourself in the cop's perspective at that moment. Some guy drives away, stops a block later, gets out of the car and approaches you. What if that guy had a concealed weapon, like a handgun. You really don't know what nutjob you've just pulled over. Add to the fact that an RCMP just lost his life a couple of days ago, and you're gonna get a cop that would rather be safe than sorry. I don't know about you, but if I were in the cop's position, I'd do the exact same thing. I'll take public criticism and a review over potentially having my family plan for my funeral, thank you very much.

[4X4]

Of course this sounds like police brutality especially to the victim apologist crowd because the guy is 68.
I've got some news for you people, there are 68 year olds out there that look 50. And there are 50 year olds that carry guns and don't want to get arrested. Cops are getting murdered for doing their jobs. Pulling over bad drivers and drunk drivers is getting officers KILLED!
If poeple don't want to get tased, they need to STFU and do whatever it is that the officer is telling them to do. Even if its unreasonable. Figure it out later with a lawyer.

Man, Rouge... Always the police's fault, eh? Doesn't matter if they're driving away from a cop or throwing computers and chairs. That cop was a bad apple that is bent on abusing his taser and zapping the hell out of people for kicks. Has absolutely nothing to do with his own personal safety. He should have assessed the situation better. Like that 20 y/o RCMP in Nunavut.



And yes, read the caption under the picture. It says he raised his arm BEFORE he got tased.

Who in their right mind blazes away from a cop, then stops a block away and gets out of their car and advances toward the pursuing cop? JC. He's lucky he only got tased. And yeah, he looks like a pretty spry 68 y/o.

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Its easy for people to say that he wasn't a threat now, after all the dust has cleared. Afterall, hindsight is 20/20. But try putting yourself in the cop's perspective at that moment. Some guy drives away, stops a block later, gets out of the car and approaches you. What if that guy had a concealed weapon, like a handgun. You really don't know what nutjob you've just pulled over. Add to the fact that an RCMP just lost his life a couple of days ago, and you're gonna get a cop that would rather be safe than sorry. I don't know about you, but if I were in the cop's position, I'd do the exact same thing. I'll take public criticism and a review over potentially having my family plan for my funeral, thank you very much.

I am not going to pick sides as this taser thing has been beaten to death however, there is a well known police officer and an expert on the use of force (whos name eludes me atm) who, when giving testimony, does so in the third person- as if someone, you, me or anyone was walking down the street and observed the entire altercation. Someone with some creative writing ability should try to compose one using the article. I think it might be pretty enlightening.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

But of course there are some of us who don't believe that cops can ever make a mistake.

And of course there as some amoung us who believe the cops always wrongly used force, regardless of the circumstances.

[MaxPower]

Yeah, this is a loaded article, the old guy sounds like a friggin' moron, and we certainly don't know all the facts, so I won't comment on this incident.

However, the statement the woman made -- comparing the police officer to a kid with a new toy, who couldn't wait to use it -- is why I think tasers were introduced.

[The Yen Man]

I dunno, I always take what people remember of an incident with a grain of salt. A lot of times, perception is skewed by how they're feeling at the moment. Not to say the woman is lying, but she might be exaggerating certain parts, because she's only remembering the parts that she wants to remember.

It reminds me of that Family Guy episode where Peter takes the doctor to court for giving him a prostate exam.

[MaxPower]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I dunno, I always take what people remember of an incident with a grain of salt. A lot of times, perception is skewed by how they're feeling at the moment. Not to say the woman is lying, but she might be exaggerating certain parts, because she's only remembering the parts that she wants to remember.

It reminds me of that Family Guy episode where Peter takes the doctor to court for giving him a prostate exam.

I hear ya, I mean, the woman IS married to this half-wit old man so her word should pretty much be meaningless however, her statement, true or not, still makes sense to me.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by Snakeeye

Dude is lucky he did this in Canada. If he tried to pull such a stunt in the US, his wife would be planning his funeral right now.

Pretty much.

If a cop pulls someone over and you get out of your vehicle they're going to have a weapon pointed at you. If you advance quickly on the cop they don't have much other choice but to take you down. And that's without evading resisting arrest a minute earlier.

68 year olds can operate handguns (or any other concealed weapon) as well as anyone else - they're not above the law.

[JayP]

"Well, I was so shocked I couldn't believe it. He tried to fight him off, right? But he Tasered him anyways — twice."

Can anyone understand this sentence? If the cop is trying to fight off the old guy then this thread is over. He's lucky he just got tasered if that's the case. If the guy got charged with assault then it's pretty clear that he had some sort of physical altercation with the cop.