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Old 10-27-2007, 07:46 PM   #1
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"This game ain't basketball anymore, it's entertainment," Wallace said. "It's starting to get like the WWF. There ain't no real wrestling anymore either. It's all fake."
Hilarious.....and if I was a fan of the NBA I would be outraged. Im not and I like this. With the gambling scandal and some of th other nonsense thats happened recently, I hope the NBA takes a huge nosedive in popularity so I dont have it stuffed down my throat so much.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/p...?urn=nba,51022
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:10 PM   #2
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When you watch high school and college basketball, even with moderate interest, and then turn on an NBA game you quickly realize that it has little if anything to offer to basketball fans.

I guess if you like trash talking it's great.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:02 PM   #3
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NBA is an very poor product, I don't know about fake, or like the WWE, I mean, WWE athletes work hard.

College ball on the other hand is very underrated up here. I wish we had more access to it.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:21 PM   #4
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I tried watching the NBA during the NHL lockout it. Really tried - I couldn't do it. And it is particularly bad when compared to college bball. I'm not a big fan of basketball by any means but I always watch the NCAA tournament. It's amazing the difference in game play in that tournament compared to any game played in the NBA over a year - including playoffs. I can see what Rasheed is saying but there is one thing I'll disagree with - entertainment the NBA is not. I'd much rather watch RAW than an NBA game for entertainment purposes.
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:35 PM   #5
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Nobody really misses it too much out here.. The only reason the pre-season game sold out last night was 'cause Nash was playing. Even still, there were plenty of seats to be had if one looked.
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:54 AM   #6
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NBA is an very poor product, I don't know about fake, or like the WWE, I mean, WWE athletes work hard.

College ball on the other hand is very underrated up here. I wish we had more access to it.
US College Sports Package is your best bet. For $99 you get awesome college football and basketball coverage.
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Old 10-28-2007, 04:59 PM   #7
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US College Sports Package is your best bet. For $99 you get awesome college football and basketball coverage.
Ya its great for all your college needs. I was suprised on how much was HD too.

Its these sports packs that are gonna make me get Free To Air...Spent almost $500 this year on CPS, NHLCI & NFLST. Gets sooooo expensive!
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:15 PM   #8
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I think one of the worst things to have happened to basketball was for the cameras and announcers to pick up when Michael Jordan was in the zone in the finals, turned to Magic Johnson who was working play by play, and did the now famous shoulder shrug as if to say "I'm just throwing them up and they just keep going in". It was a great, "organic" moment in the heat of the action.

Now that little parasite Kobe Bryant tries to emulate that after every basket. Because Kobe plays in the big market, he gets some attention from the media and that causes every other new player to be more interested in getting into the fricken highlight reel than winning championships.

The best thing that could happen to the NBA would for Kobe to retire and let people who actually care about the game, and not their own stats, to play in LA.
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US College Sports Package is your best bet. For $99 you get awesome college football and basketball coverage.
?? that's not a shaw package is it?
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:18 PM   #10
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I don't mind watching college hoops once in a while. Mostly during March madness.

NBA = zzzzzzzzzzzzz

I'm not sure I can even name a dozen NBA'ers.
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:14 PM   #11
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?? that's not a shaw package is it?
http://www.globesports.com/servlet/s...beSportsHockey

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In Western Canada, Shaw, which ranks No. 2 to Rogers in household distribution, doesn't offer a premium sports package, but does provide some pay services, such as Sunday Ticket and game telecasts of Western Hockey League junior games.

ExpressVu is well ahead of Star Choice in sports programming. It offers à la carte programming that includes Centre Ice, a NASCAR channel, Sunday Ticket, the U.S. college football and basketball channel. It may begin carriage of Extra Innings. The Star Choice premium sports menu is limited pretty much to Sunday Ticket.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:06 AM   #12
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NCAA Basketball > NBA by a mile. March Madness is unreal to watch.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:47 AM   #13
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NBA basketball has gone from a sport to a marketing entity, its all about marketing the individual players, so yes the actual concept of basketball being a game about offense and defense is gone, and its all about offense, and either the big fancy slam, or the clutch three point shot.

When they moved the three point circle in to increase scoring, I knew the game was done.

If you want to watch pure basketball, where its a team oriented passing game, you watch NCAA basketball, and in particular the smaller schools.

If I want to watch a 7'6 freakshow slamming a basketball while mugging for the camera, then I'll watch the NBA.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:17 AM   #14
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I don't mind watching college hoops once in a while. Mostly during March madness.

NBA = zzzzzzzzzzzzz

I'm not sure I can even name a dozen NBA'ers.
You can't name a dozen college players either

As a general argument the skill level of the NBA is far superior to the NCAA. They can make shots from anywhere and the defense is always very very tight. The athletisism is incredible when you watch it in person. Yes there are highlight reel plays and mugging for the camera but that's very minimal in a 48 minute game.

You guys are fortunate not the see the college regular season because it's awful. Games that mean nothing and poor shooting and passing.
The 3-point line is way to close which means there is no inside play. It's all from the perimeter. March Madness is more a reality show and cinderella story than actual basketball. Most of the games are 60-50 with 30% shooting.
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ok so I need Bell satellite to do it, not available on Shaw. I'll have to send Shaw a note, I sent about 10 before the NFL network showed up.
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Last season I flipped to a channel showing an NBA playoff game. There was about a minute left and the game was really close. So I watched the last minute and the 5 minutes of ensuing overtime. Totalling roughly 6 minutes of basketball. It took 45 minutes! That is punishment for the casual fan to sit through. That was the last bit of basketball I've watched.
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Last season I flipped to a channel showing an NBA playoff game. There was about a minute left and the game was really close. So I watched the last minute and the 5 minutes of ensuing overtime. Totalling roughly 6 minutes of basketball. It took 45 minutes! That is punishment for the casual fan to sit through. That was the last bit of basketball I've watched.
Yes I have to agree here. The timeouts in basketball both NBA and college are ridiculous. In college a team gets 4 timeouts in a 20 minute half!
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:52 AM   #18
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Last season I flipped to a channel showing an NBA playoff game. There was about a minute left and the game was really close. So I watched the last minute and the 5 minutes of ensuing overtime. Totalling roughly 6 minutes of basketball. It took 45 minutes! That is punishment for the casual fan to sit through. That was the last bit of basketball I've watched.
that helped kill the game for me as well. What a total waste of time. You aren't going to hook any casual fans when they have to sit through crap like that.
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When I was a kid basketball was my favorite sport to watch and play. Hockey was great. But you could shoot hoops anytime allmost anywhere, either by yourself or with friends. Back in the late 80's I knew every NBA player, had my room completely covered in posters of Michael Jordan, Dominique Wilkens, Spud Webb, Karl Malone, Kevin McHale, Patrick Ewing, ect. ect.

I bet I havn't watched an NBA game in 12 years. It just got stupid and I lost interest. The most exciting thing to happen in the NBA was the brawl in Detroit with the Pistons and the Pacers. The NCAA and even high school ball is a lot more entertaining to me. The game is still pure at these levels. I would rather watch a local high school girls game than an NBA game anyday.
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The second players popularity and league marketing increase with either: A.Their attitude (Kobe Bryant, Shaq, etc) or B. Their ability to make fancy dunks (Vince Carter in his Raptors days), the league has no credability in my mind. No surprise to me if the league actually pushed to get the Cavs in the finals over the 'bread and butter,' "Team defense' Detroit Pistons. It's not like the NHL has a 'Fanciest goal' competition at the all-star game every year.
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