People love Garth Brooks

[Displaced Flames fan]

http://www.wichitaeagle.com/news/story/194326.html

If the guy decides to 'unretire' he'll make a billion dollars.

Pretty amazing if you ask me.

[browna]

I wonder what Chris Gaines thinks of all this?

[Locke]

I dont.....

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by fotze

Does he do that song that goes:

You and me go fishin in the dark, something something something and countin tha stars

Nitty Gritty Dirt Band

[droopydrew19]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Nitty Gritty Dirt Band

Garth Brooks also did a cover of it on his last album. He is a very big fan of he dirt band and was happy they let him record it.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Holy Macaroni!

If Garth Brooks "unretires" I will be the happiest person on the planet. I never managed to get tickets to any of his four or five shows in Halifax when I was in grade 9.

I called the Metro Centre, they said they'd be available over the phone (which was not the case) so I was unable to order them

Then he retired

. . . talk . . . about . . . pissed

Fingers crossed he does some touring, and soon

[Jayems]

$5,000,000 for 9 days work isn't too bad, i guess.

[Stranger]

Garth Brooks is the country music anti-christ. He almost single handedly killed country music and ushered in the unlistenable "New Country". Sure, good country music was dying in the eighties, but Garth Brooks turned it into a complete side show with his over the top concerts which covered up the fact that he was a talentless hack.

True legends like Cash, Jennings, Nelson etc. were kicked to the curb for the "new" country sound. Now anyone who put on a fake texan accent could find a song with a catchphase chorus, sing it to death for 3 years and then fade into oblivion for the next new star.

If it weren't for Rick Rubin giving Johnny Cash a record deal we would have never heard a Johnny Cash song through the 90's. And when Cash was cool again (just before he died) new country came back saying they loved him all along.

Oh yeah, no I don't like Garth Brooks.

Or Chris Gaines.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by Stranger

Garth Brooks is the country music anti-christ. He almost single handedly killed country music and ushered in the unlistenable "New Country". Sure, good country music was dying in the eighties, but Garth Brooks turned it into a complete side show with his over the top concerts which covered up the fact that he was a talentless hack.

True legends like Cash, Jennings, Nelson etc. were kicked to the curb for the "new" country sound. Now anyone who put on a fake texan accent could find a song with a catchphase chorus, sing it to death for 3 years and then fade into oblivion for the next new star.

If it weren't for Rick Rubin giving Johnny Cash a record deal we would have never heard a Johnny Cash song through the 90's. And when Cash was cool again (just before he died) new country came back saying they loved him all along.

Oh yeah, no I don't like Garth Brooks.

Or Chris Gaines.

So basically you're saying he turned average joe non-country fans into country fans revitalizing a dying genre?

Well in that case i agree.

[droopydrew19]

To call Garth Brooks the country music anti-christ is like calling Wayne Gretzky the hockey antichrist. Sure Good hockey died off in the 70's with the broadstreet bulies, but Wayne turned it all into a complete side show with fist pumping and wrap around goals that just covered up his lack of talent.

True legends like Gordie, Marcel and Guy were kicked to the curb for a new brand of exciting end to end hockey. Now any kid who can tuck in one side of his jersey and skate like Brian Orser can catch on for a couple years and be named "the next one"

If it wasnt for Ed Schnieder making Bobby Clarke Flyers GM we would have never reminisce of the time Bobby broke a Russians arm or how Bonnie and Carl wanted their boy to be cool.

Oh yeah... no I don't like Wayne Gretzky

Or "Strangers" opinion

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Stranger

Garth Brooks is the country music anti-christ. He almost single handedly killed country music and ushered in the unlistenable "New Country". Sure, good country music was dying in the eighties, but Garth Brooks turned it into a complete side show with his over the top concerts which covered up the fact that he was a talentless hack.

True legends like Cash, Jennings, Nelson etc. were kicked to the curb for the "new" country sound. Now anyone who put on a fake texan accent could find a song with a catchphase chorus, sing it to death for 3 years and then fade into oblivion for the next new star.

If it weren't for Rick Rubin giving Johnny Cash a record deal we would have never heard a Johnny Cash song through the 90's. And when Cash was cool again (just before he died) new country came back saying they loved him all along.

Oh yeah, no I don't like Garth Brooks.

Or Chris Gaines.

So you're argument is that Garth Brooks created a new genre of music in "New Country" but is a tallentless hack?

Wouldn't it take tallent to create a new genre?
Wouldn't it take tallent to put on the over the top concerts that he did, revolutionizing not only new country, but the music industry as a whole.
If he created "new country" who was he hacking?

The Beatles, revolutionized music introducing us to the boy band, and condemming us with N*Sync, Backstreet Boys, New Kids on the Block, and countless other boy bands. Tallentless Hacks!

Elvis Presley, revolutionized the music industry giving us rock and roll, paving the way for a generation of sock hops, and teen idols. Talk about a tallentless hack!

The Rolling Stones, the premiere rock band, the band that all other bands formulate themselves after, they revolutionized the "Drugs, Sex, and Rock and Roll" mentality. Now we've got Nickleback, Theory of a Deadman, and Default. Stupid Stones, bunch of tallentless hacks!

Not liking Garth Brooks is fair, it's a valid opinion. But to call him a tallentless hack is simply incorrect, and let's not forget to mention the premises of your conclution actually oppose your conclusion.

I'm a Garth Brooks fan, buy the way. However I'm also open minded enough to listen to a valid criticism, and respect it.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

http://www.wichitaeagle.com/news/story/194326.html

If the guy decides to 'unretire' he'll make a billion dollars.

Pretty amazing if you ask me.

So, by that rationale, if Chris Gaines decides to tell Brooks to go to hell and hes gonna go it solo, he'll still make $500,000,000?

I think he'd take that deal....

[the crispy badger]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Holy Macaroni!

If Garth Brooks "unretires" I will be the happiest person on the planet. I never managed to get tickets to any of his four or five shows in Halifax when I was in grade 9.

I called the Metro Centre, they said they'd be available over the phone (which was not the case) so I was unable to order them

Then he retired

. . . talk . . . about . . . pissed

Fingers crossed he does some touring, and soon

He came to Halifax? I thought he only came to St John for one concert back then...this was around early 95-96 right.

[Cowperson]

Garth Brooks seems to have an all or nothing personality . . . . . he was 100% music and zero percent family.

Lost his wife and retired and became 100% family, devoted to his children, and pretty much zero per cent music (or touring at least).

Probably no coincidence that his newly minted wife, Trisha Yearwood, also a country great, has recently reappeared from a period of isolation as well.

It will be great to have Brooks back. As an entertainer, he was second to none.

Cowperson

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by the crispy badger

He came to Halifax? I thought he only came to St John for one concert back then...this was around early 95-96 right.

Not only did he go to Halifax, one night of one of the concerts Halifax got hit with a snowstorm. The crews were still clearing the downtown roads when the concert ended. So rather than have 10,000 people try and leave the downtown core with crews trying to clear the streets, the "tallentless hack" kept playing until the roads were safely cleared.

Next time you're in the Metro Centre take a look in the lobby of people who have played there, his photo's there. I forget the dates, but Fall 1996 I believe (was in grade 9, started high school in 97 so yeah 96)

[Stranger]

Maybe I was a bit harsh. What I'm trying to say is country music is trying to evolve itself into pop music. Garth Brooks "Chris Gaines" shows that perfectly. He tried to used Gaines as a way to test the pop music scene a little more.

Country music is trying to distance itself so far from what it was in the 50's 60's and 70's that it really isn't country anymore. To someone that is a fan of that era its frustrating to listen to. Shania Twain is considered a country star, but when was the last time she recorded something remotely country? New country fans call it an evolution, but it's evolving if you don't respect the past. New country music isn't country music, it's waterdown disposable pop music with a few steel guitars. Acts like Big and Rich are a good example of how far new country will go to make a buck.

I'll admit Garth Brooks is good at what he does and has made alot of money using his rock concerts to promote his music, but he still isn't country in my opinion and I'll never be able to convince a fan of his otherwise. It's just a shame that new artists that don't have the Garth Brooks or Tim McGraw or Kenny Chesney sound, aren't played on the radio because they aren't "pop country". I guess that's why I bought my Sirius.

And Locke, Chris Gaines should only get his $500,000,000 if he goes on tour with Brooks. But then he'd have to split his share with Trisha Yearwood.

[Stranger]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

So you're argument is that Garth Brooks created a new genre of music in "New Country" but is a tallentless hack?

Wouldn't it take tallent to create a new genre?
Wouldn't it take tallent to put on the over the top concerts that he did, revolutionizing not only new country, but the music industry as a whole.
If he created "new country" who was he hacking?

The Beatles, revolutionized music introducing us to the boy band, and condemming us with N*Sync, Backstreet Boys, New Kids on the Block, and countless other boy bands. Tallentless Hacks!

Elvis Presley, revolutionized the music industry giving us rock and roll, paving the way for a generation of sock hops, and teen idols. Talk about a tallentless hack!

The Rolling Stones, the premiere rock band, the band that all other bands formulate themselves after, they revolutionized the "Drugs, Sex, and Rock and Roll" mentality. Now we've got Nickleback, Theory of a Deadman, and Default. Stupid Stones, bunch of tallentless hacks!

Not liking Garth Brooks is fair, it's a valid opinion. But to call him a tallentless hack is simply incorrect, and let's not forget to mention the premises of your conclution actually oppose your conclusion.

I'm a Garth Brooks fan, buy the way. However I'm also open minded enough to listen to a valid criticism, and respect it.

I'm sure most people here would consider the Beatles more than a boy band, and I wouldn't exactly consider Nickleback the second coming of the Rolling Stones. (Though mainstream radio may lead you to believe that.)

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Stranger,

There you make some valid points, and I too hate Shania Twain. However, you don't have bands that sound like the Beatles anymore, or Lynard Skynard, or Genesis, or the Eagles, or whomever was big in the past. The music industry is in constant evolution. Is it fair to blame one catalyst for change who started to influence the scene almost 20 years ago, to the Big & Riches, and Toby Keith's of today? Was it a factor? Undoubtably. But the factor, put the fall of the ole country music on his shoulders? I don't think so. In fairness I think a change in country music was coming, with the expansion of FM radio, music videos, and then the internet, country went from being that weird, one-off, genre, to something that more people listen to and enjoy. The evolution was happening with or without Garth.

The other side of the coin is that people don't think of modern country music, or "new country" with the same viewpoint as the old joke "what do you get when you play country music backwards? You get your wife back, you get your house back, you get your dog back, you get your truck back . . . "

If you don't like Garth, that's fine by me (I wish 50,000+ less people liked him when he sold out the Metro Centre on back to back to back to back nights in 1996), I don't like the Smashing Pumpkins and get a lot of head for being a teenager from the 90's who think Billy Corgan's voice is the worst thing on the planet and he sounds like a dying mule.

To each their own

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Stranger

I'm sure most people here would consider the Beatles more than a boy band, and I wouldn't exactly consider Nickleback the second coming of the Rolling Stones. (Though mainstream radio may lead you to believe that.)

That's my point exactly, the reasoning in your first post is too simplistic to state that Garth Brooks is the country music anti-Christ because he helped change the way country music was presented.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Stranger

And Locke, Chris Gaines should only get his $500,000,000 if he goes on tour with Brooks. But then he'd have to split his share with Trisha Yearwood.

I aisagree 110%, Christ Gaines should only get his $500,000,000 *NOT* to tour