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Old 07-27-2007, 09:25 AM   #1
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Hey guys,

Am I the only one who has noticed a large number of right hand drive cars on Calgary's roads lately?

Seems I see at least 1 or 2 per day now. All kinds of different manufacturers. However many seem to be japanese models.

Is there some cheap overseas car pipeline that has become available lately or something?

Anybody have any insight as to why this may be the case?
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:29 AM   #2
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Because Nissan Skylines were finally 15 years old, and thus importable, and it started a whole fad.

Then people started to get 15 year old other Japanese cars because they are much cheaper over there. Little do people realize that 90% of them are junk and RHD is a pain in the ass.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:30 AM   #3
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Nissan Skylines... two people I know (one old high school buddy, another a work friend) were waiting with baited breath a couple years ago because they could import the cars finally (they have to be over 12 years old or similar, before they are allowed to come here).

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What's this rule? An imported car has to be 15 years old? Or does that just related to right-hand drive cars?
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:38 AM   #5
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When I lived in Australia. Full sized pickup trucks were very rare. They had to be imported from NA. Then they would have the left hand drive converted to right hand drive.

I'm guessing that bringing a right hand drive into NA is even rarer. So it is eather too expensive to get it converted to left hand drive. Or finding a place that can do it may be difficult as well. It would be a pain in the butt to drive a right hand drive in a left hand drive world.
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http://www.importconcern.ca/
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:39 AM   #7
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Hmmm. I see.

Not too sure I would want to be driving a right hand drive car regularly. Especially on the highway. Passing on a single lane road could be a bit tricky.

I am a bit surprised that transport canada would allow these vehicles to be registered.

Seems the only time previous to now that you would see right had drive cars was the very rare british import. These new asian imports seem to be popping up all over the place.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:42 AM   #8
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What's with the 15 years rule?
Is that to protect NA dealers?
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ask Neeper about it. He imports and sells them.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:43 AM   #10
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Too funny. I just said the same thing yesterday. These Skylines appear to be everywhere.
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:01 AM   #11
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The 15yr rule is for any vehicle no meant to be sold in the Canadian or US market. In the US they have a 25yr rule, although, you can import newer vehicles, but you have to jump through a tonne of hoops.

I am guessing the reason it is 15 yrs is to protect the local market. I personally don't agree with it. I figure a 10 yr old vehicle is safer than a 15 yr old vehicle. But the local dealerships wouldn't want these cars being imported, as it could hurt their sales.

So idea behind it is that you are able to purchase a vehicle (mainly from Japan) for around $10k, and it gives people a good base to build on. Mainly with the Skyline GTR (nick named Godzilla). You can get upwards of around 600bhp from an RB26DETT (GTR Engine) on stock engine internals.
Plus it allows people to get their hands on vehicles that are not available in the CDM (Canadian domestic market). This goes for any british car nuts as well. You could import a UKDM vehicle that is 15 yrs old into canada. Although, it is not as popular as JDM.

The reason alot of the JDM vehicles are popular, is partially because of Drifting. If you import a JDM vehicle (Skyline, Silvia, etc), you can get one for about 10K, turboed, modified etc, for cheaper than purchacing a 240 and building it up in canada.

As far as registering a RHD in canada, you have to go through a bunch of inspections before it is even able to hit the road in canada. It does have to conform to DoT regulations. So this include Daytime running lights, bumper braces, etc. And alot of insurance companies are allowing JDM vin to be input in thier systems as well.

As for driving around in a RHD, you are probably better off, as you have to be more aware, and not put yourself in dangerous situations. Passing on the highway is dangerous regardless. in a RHD vehicle, you just have to either keep a safe distance from the vehicle behind you, have a passenger that you trust, or sneak over to the right and look around the vehicle in front of you.
Left hand turns suck, especially if a large vehicle is in your line of site, as you can see around it, but that could be said for some intersections even with a LHD. Just avoid those.

I read somewhere that RHD vehicles are safer (if everyone drive RHD), as most peoples predoment eye is in the right eye. Other than NA, not many countries are drive on the left. I am not sure why NA adopted driving on the left, i guess it could be as simple as the US and Canada didn't want anything british, and so decided on the left, as the brits where on the right.

Let me know if you have any other questions. While I don't currently own a RHD or imported one, I have been researching for a couple years, and think I have a pretty good handle on it.

Neeper, if you have anything to add, or if you think I have missed anything, feel free to correct me
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{snip}Other than NA, not many countries are drive on the left. I am not sure why NA adopted driving on the left, i guess it could be as simple as the US and Canada didn't want anything british, and so decided on the left, as the brits where on the right. {snip}
That's not true.

Other than the UK, all of Europe is LHD. Most of SOuth America, Most of Africa, a large part of Asia.

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Just to add a few more things.

With the skyline, the most popular versions are the GTR, and the GTS. With the GTS, you can do an engine swap for about $5k and be making around 250hp at the crank. The same as BMW M3, for about $15 less than what you would pay locally for the M3.
That is also part the of the appeal. That and being a little different.
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That's not true.

Other than the UK, all of Europe is LHD. Most of SOuth America, Most of Africa, a large part of Asia.

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Well.. guess I am wrong.
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there are tons of cars in storage in Montana just over the border waiting for the 15 year thing. My Dad found that out when he tried to bring his new Lexus into Canada and they decided he didn't have the proper paperwork (because customs are incompetent tools, but that's a whole different thread...) He had to drive all the way down to Helena as all the storage places in Shelby and Great Falls were full.
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That's not true.

Other than the UK, all of Europe is LHD. Most of SOuth America, Most of Africa, a large part of Asia.

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most of South America? I see only Guyana and Suriname as LHD there. I lived in Venezuela and they certainly drive on the right hand side. And Argentina has switched to the right side as well.
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Well.. guess I am wrong.
No problem. I've seen similar maps over the years and always find them pretty neat. It is interesting reading some of the stories about what happened when countries switch driving sides.

I'm not even sure if any industrialized country could switch sides anymore. I'm guessing the layout of much of the infrastructure would not work if everyone suddenly switched sides. Suddenly all the left-turn lanes would be wrong.
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most of South America? I see only Guyana and Suriname as LHD there. I lived in Venezuela and they certainly drive on the right hand side. And Argentina has switched to the right side as well.
My bad. I get mixed up describing whether the car is on the left hand side or the driver is on the left hand side.

Most of S.A. is the same as N.A. I guess I should have said to remove confusion.

Or just look at the map.
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there are tons of cars in storage in Montana just over the border waiting for the 15 year thing. My Dad found that out when he tried to bring his new Lexus into Canada and they decided he didn't have the proper paperwork (because customs are incompetent tools, but that's a whole different thread...) He had to drive all the way down to Helena as all the storage places in Shelby and Great Falls were full.
Do you know what market these cars are from?
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Do you know what market these cars are from?
all over the place. The guy Dad was talking to mentioned a very fast Mercedes, some japanese models, etc. I forget the specifics. But there are literally hundreds of these cars waiting in Montana to come into Alberta, BC and Saskatchewan.
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